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Getting My Foot In The Door In The Business Of Numismatics

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 Posted 03/02/2014  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I'm getting 403'd by that link.
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 Posted 03/02/2014  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
well it was working yesterday thats strange. I'm gonna get a better pic today and ill post it
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 Posted 03/06/2014  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
So since my last post we have officially start the beginnings of Beach Numismatics. We now have a Paypal and ebay account so we will be selling very shortly
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 Posted 03/06/2014  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Excellent. You've answered all of my objections nicely, and I wish you the very best of luck.
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 Posted 03/06/2014  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
Thank you Ssuperdave I will post more as time goes on with Beach Numismatics
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 Posted 03/08/2014  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
I liike this guys moxy, enthusiasm, you'll need it.

Logan, as others have said, get a mentor. It will speed up the process. Also, here are a few rules that will apply even to starting a coin biz.

1- expect to fail, several, if not many times. Success comes from failing.

2- learn from your mistakes, and do NOT commit them again

3- remember you will always be learning, you will never really know it all, so soak up as much as you can

4- be patient

5- be persistent

6- go with the flow

7- dont allow opinions that you formulate to cloud your thinking.


I wish you all the best!
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 Posted 03/08/2014  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
Thanks for the advice I am currently as some of you have wisely stated looking for a mentor. I havent found one yet, but then again no one has offered so I'm currently just doing what I can and looking for someone to mentor me
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 Posted 03/09/2014  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinoregon to your friends list
Nice thread, I'm starting something similar but just as a hobby. Its kind of fun making a website, you could do that as you can give your buyers cheaper prices and make more money since there are no ebay fees.

Regarding profit percentage, and markup, I don't believe you should mark up items by a fixed percentage; 40%, 20% or whatever set percentage. Items should be marked up as much as they can while still selling. The markup price should be determined based on demand, the previous price you paid for the item in your inventory is now a sunk cost. There will be items you make a tiny bit of profit, others you lose money, and hopefully some you make a ton of profit on.

Keeping records of each sale and all of the costs that were tied to the sale. As others have said there is the price you paid for the item, but there are ebay fees (10%), Payapl fees, shipping, packaging. Some of these costs are obvious but some of the costs can get hidden. But tracking all of these costs will allow you review the profit you are making with each item. Review the sales history and continue to buy and sell coins that are giving you the most profit. Stop buying and selling ones you lose money at.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinoregon to your friends list
Another poster brought up a great point that I really agree with, find your niche. If you have a small group of coins you become an expert in you will know how to buy those at the best prices and what to sell for the most money. The market is way to big to be an expert at everything.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Henry M Smith to your friends list
I see you think there is only one coin dealer locally. If you are in Tampa, close by is one of the major dealers called Gainesville Coins, located in Lutz, Fl. hey are large with a real internet presence.
I also read your example of selling nickels and the ebay and Paypal overhead. I think it is underestimated. Paypal had a percentage of just under 3% plus a transaction fee of about 30 cents. ebay fees vary depending on auction style or buy it now listings. But, they can be close to 10%. The real problem is that 30 cent base for Paypal, it can be a large percentage for small items. I tent to avoid listing things like nickels, r group them for only one base fee. And, coin buyers on ebay know the real price, including shipping, which is postage, envelope, 2X2, transportation to the Post Office, etc.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
I bought 2 grand of silver from Gainesville Coin so I know they are a major contender. And I might just group a bunch of coins together in a set, and sell them like that
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 Posted 03/09/2014  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list
Henry M Smith............



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I see you think there is only one coin dealer locally. If you are in Tampa, close by is one of the major dealers called Gainesville Coins, located in Lutz, Fl. hey are large with a real internet presence.
I also read your example of selling nickels and the ebay and Paypal overhead. I think it is underestimated. Paypal had a percentage of just under 3% plus a transaction fee of about 30 cents. ebay fees vary depending on auction style or buy it now listings. But, they can be close to 10%. The real problem is that 30 cent base for Paypal, it can be a large percentage for small items. I tent to avoid listing things like nickels, r group them for only one base fee. And, coin buyers on ebay know the real price, including shipping, which is postage, envelope, 2X2, transportation to the Post Office, etc.


IMHO ... ebay is greedy when it comes to seller(s) selling MONEY.

Like a hundred dollar bill ... or 100 Ike coins.

Both buyers and seller get cut off at the knees.

IMHO ... ebay would 10 fold their sales on MONEy ... If the paypal and ebay fees (total) was about 6%.

What say you?
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 Posted 03/09/2014  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Although not a full time dealer, I do sell on ebay, ecrater, and shows from time to time. My wife andI are planning on retiring out of California so maybe someday a small B&M where rent is cheaper.
Best of luck to you :-)
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 Posted 03/10/2014  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burks to your friends list
Good luck. I tried the whole online coral shop idea. Failed miserably (if you consider breaking even a failure). Went through four different orders, just couldn't get into the profit region. Oh well.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlackRabbitCoins to your friends list
Loganjonathan.. Good Luck! Keep us updated.
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