1786 Connecticut Copper Miller 5.7-H.1. Submitted To PCGS

Rather than write a short novel ... YES.

Other factors ... only use PCGS/NGC to RAISE the grade ...

A top NYC Auction house OWNER ... once said to me ... Yes ... John ... you can never fool a C4 member with over - cataloging - well in most cases <VVBG> today as there is alot more DUMB money in this arena than 10 years ago - let alone 20 or 30.

It should have been droped RAW into the November C4 Sale at Stacks/Bowers due to heavy porosity ... now you have TWO negatives ... an over-inflated TPG grade which almost always happens like the current Newman material at Heritage and what you indicated in your last post ... TWO STRIKES ... next detector find you will know better ... JUST MO. <VVBG>.

JPL

If porous ... submit to the auction house raw ... remember Heritage slabs all the material ... not pro-Stacks ... Federal today is better at heritage. Choose your pathways WISELY ... Heritage or Stacks ... or whatever ... never slab porous ... its a losing battle.

JPL

You are finding some great old material with your detector! What detector do you use? Where did you find them? LIke by a park, old home, school, etc ?

I can't believe someone scolded you for sending that coin in for slabbing. The PCGS details slab makes it worth more, not less. There are a lot of fakes out there. Now the entire world knows yours isn't one of them. Oh dear, you spent 50 bucks. (I think that's what PCGS charges for coppers). I hope you can afford it and mom still has money for chemo. By the way, that isn't a good metal detecting find, it's a spectacular one.

Oh, that wasn't a scolding. ;) An opinion, that's all. The coin is what it is, a dug coin, but one that held well and still - fortunately - has value. I am pleased that it has been listed as genuine. I do plan to part with it at some point. The early and later large cents are what have my attention now. Thanks for your input! I do appreciate it.




You mean that it should not have been listed as detail grade or that the grading should be lower/higher? Your input would definitely be helpful. I thought the coin could grade AU, but factoring in that it is a dug coin and environmental damage is evident, I felt XF is probably right. Still, I have seen others of the variety in worse shape and with evidence of environmental damage that were graded and slabbed by PCGS without the detail listing. Thanks for the comment!

It belongs in this slab. It deserves it. Yes, I too think it is worth more after authentication. Can't we all just enjoy the hobby instead of constantly thinking how one might make the most bucks out of it? Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with wanting to get the most money out of a coin, but to say that getting a coin authenticated was a BIG mistake in terms of potential sales just boggles my mind. Don't get it.

Higher. It's an AU details coin with corrosion. Not an XF details coin with corrosion.

My opinion of course ;)

That would require trust. Trust is to the TPG system as sunlight is to vampires. Make no mistake; the purpose of a slab is not to "protect" a coin. It is a means of fusing a grade "certification" to a coin in a tamper-evident manner. Now it can be marketed as a commodity unit, bought and sold as 1786Connct/MailedBustLeft/XFDetails, instead of a unique thing of beauty. It can be traded in bulk by speculators who don't even feel the need to see the coin itself.
Of course, the slab can be removed by anyone who finds slabs to be a hideous abomination. But that's the real evil beauty of the system; as long as there's no human trust, that TPG grade becomes null and void, with fear of the evaporation of any "resale premium" the system places on it. To get this "certification" back, one must pay again; rejection of the TPG system has now doubled its profit.