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Valued Member
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Haha! That is a good point... I actually do sorta like the look of it so I guess I would pay a little over spot.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't see beauty here.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Haha! Eloquently put sel! Can anyone see any evidence that this toning is artificial?
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United Kingdom
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I was thinking that I may want to sell this coin on ebay at some point but I dont want to rip anyone off so would it be wise to state that it is artificially toned? Or advise that it is possible? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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maybe it was heated with a blow-torch and/or painted Exactly, it has the looks of a heated/cooled, artificially toned coin. |
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United Kingdom
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Toning of silver usually gives off beautiful colours, only with ancients dug out of the ground would I expect to see blackening of silver. With this coin it looks to have had two 'treatments' done to it, firstly creating the light brownish colour-maybe via sulphur powder and alcohol burnings. Then the second looks charred via some sort of oven technique or even a frying pan technique involving left over oil in the pan causing this odd arrangement of toning. The difference between the 'tones' is too much of an uncomplimentary tone contrast, which would be an indicator of artificial toning. If it were in a house fire I'd expect to see only charring and probably more and less consistent than on the coin in question(overall charring covered, not like the coin shown), and without these contrasting 'tones'. For charring to happen, an object is usually a particular distance from the fire/source. And this coin has 'toning' all over it, so it would of had to of been levitating to achieve this from a fire, and usually direct contact with a fire may even cause melting of a coin-but this would be an extremely prolonged rather furious fire-with the right elements fueling it. I think you did well with getting it under spot, have you tested it for silver via basic tests? I couldn't see it having a premium personally, as mentioned above though beauty is in the eye...etc. And one other thing, is this toning consistent on the rims/edge? Any chance of a picture of that? I sourced my knowledge of artificial toning from this link:- http://roko.coinsite.com/origcoindoc/p0000080.htmAnd my knowledge of charring on fires is from my time teaching outdoor survival and spending alot of time trying different things out with fires. Edited by awallin01
03/28/2014 09:10 am
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks for the reply, the edges of the coin are mostly yellow and have some more of the dark tones on them too so they are consistent. It is the right weight and thickness for a silver Kennedy so defiantly silver :D
Do you think it could be possible that this coin was in a safe or cabinet during a fire which protected it from charring? Under closer inspection the 2x2 it came in looks a little melted in places. Or would it be likely it was artificially toned in the holder?
I am leaning more towards artificial at this point too after looking at that link just now.
Edited by mcstone
03/28/2014 09:26 am
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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The reason I asked about checking for silver is because of some of the sellers at car boots, notoriously have dodgy goods. There are good sellers aswell, but watch out for the pikeys lol.
If it were in a safe, it would have different toning because at least one of the surfaces of the coin would be in contact with the safe surface or another object.
As I said you did well with getting it for less than spot, and you never know if someone would find it more attractive than others. :)
Edited by awallin01
03/28/2014 09:42 am
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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haha! I know what you mean, I've seen a few fakes about. Thanks for the info, pretty sure it is artificial. Still cant complain with the price  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have a few Kennedy halves that came out of a house fire. I'll dig them out and take some pictures so you can see what a real fire makes them look like. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would suggest a lot longer than a quick dip to try to remove that gunk. Drop it in the acetone and forget about it for at least a day. To me it does look like PVC or the like. Give the acetone time to work on the gunk.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Ok, will do, I'll post pics if there is any change :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was going to say the acetone will do nada for the coin...but then I noticed that the background paper towel is also blue...color balance might be an issue here and the blue I was keying on the coin might not be accurate.
Let's see what happens....I would try E-Z est after that (short dip)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What happened? Did it clean up?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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the coin did not clean up at all in acetone, so I decided to rub it under water and most of the black came off haha! totally ruined coin, but an interesting experience :)
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