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The letters in the word LIBERTY are incuse and so is Lincoln's tie. It's pressed into the last 2 digits of the year 2000. I don't know of any way to get this sharp and clear of an impression LIBERTY unless it was tooled into the face of Lincoln.
Another "error" on the coin is the word TRUST. It shows heavy separation and what would look like a double strike but the seller makes no reference to this.
I used Photoshop to do an overlay of the coin's image using the word LIBERTY as a reference point. The word clearly shows that the 2nd LIBERTY is incuse. Most of the ghost image of Lincoln lines up with the overlay. Lincoln's tie caused the incuse dent in the last 2 digits of 2000, but the image of Lincoln's ear does not line up correctly. The ghost image ear is too far away from the Y in LIBERTY and is not quite the same shape as the ear from the overlay.
The fact that the rims show no sign of damage seems strange, but the only photos that the seller provides are photos of the obverse. This makes me wonder if a photo of the reverse would shows signs of damage from work done on the obverse.
Just my observations and I could be totally wrong, but I can't see this error happening in the minting process.
Ben
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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I agree that a look at the reverse would be helpful.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I don't know of any way to get this sharp and clear of an impression LIBERTY unless it was tooled into the face of Lincoln. Or an impression by a reverse-reading LIBERTY--in relief?  Is that possible at the Mint?
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Canada
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I would avoid it personally. 1- its not authenticated or slabbed, would attract a lot more buyers if it was 2- can't see both sides (there should be lots of pics both sides IMO) 3- some things about it ( as mentioned ) don't seem right 4- new seller, 18 of 23 feedbacks are for purchases I may be wrong but I dont gamble much.lol
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^ Could not have said it better.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Quote: I agree that a look at the reverse would be helpful. Just had to ask.The reverse looks normal,no sign of damage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't even consider it unless it was slabbed PCGS or NGC. For that price it should at least be that or more with error authentication.
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United States
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Everything is right about this error. Encapsulation is unnecessary in my opinion, and I doubt the tpgs would describe the error correctly. Incuse elements are common with struck through shifted die caps errors. Edit: Here is the error-ref listing of this error. I think it will help others recognize this rare error. http://error-ref.com/shifted-cap-strike.html
Edited by ErrorCoins222 04/05/2014 02:21 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hmm...how does the incuse LIBERTY happen? When the die cap shifts and those letters are thicker, so they get indented into the coin? 
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This is a genuine error. The obverse face was struck through the detached bottom of a late-stage die cap. The normally-oriented incuse design elements are characteristic of such errors.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks Mike. When I viewed this coin all I saw was the mark across the center of the coin. Now looking back I can now see the LIBERTY and the shoulder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 @ErrorCoins222 Thank you for the web addy and yes it did shed some light on the subject. My light bulb is now lit.....he he
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ErrorCoins222..you where right  and thanks for the link. I've read it before but totally forgot, thats the second time this has happened to me in the past couple weeks. I'm trying to cram to much info in the short time I been studying errors. And thats one of my favorite websites for errors, double   . Oh well either way I've learned a good lesson. And thanks to Mike for confirming it also. I still would have been a bit leary of a new seller with a rare error and no returns at $1000 or better.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow! I love what I learn on CCF! Thanks for the information ErrorCoins222 and mikediamond! I was sure this was a fake, but as I said, I could have been (and was) totally wrong!
Thanks for the details and link!
It's a great error that I never had seen before!
THANKS! Ben
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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