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Help With Possible Colonial Copper Coin

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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list
Superdave: Sorry but I can't follow what you mean as far as an email address and I can't send one through the web site because of a lack of posts. If allowed my email is redacted but the address is all ran together with no spaces. Thanks for trying to help and I was able to get a couple photos taken. I do not believe it is an English Half Penny as it appears to me to show a lady stretched out on the left side of the harp. I did measure it when I found it and it is 2 millimeters larger than a 2 cent piece which I thought it could be.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You're going to have an email from me in a couple minutes. I've hidden your address, for reasons I'll explain in the email.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Does it look like this? If we can establish that, we would be more able to help you.

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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list

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Does it look like this?


Probably not! Because....


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The colonial coin and the others are well worn but on my colonial the harp and the lady on the left side are very visible.



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Hibernia-woman sitting, playing harp


Likely, Irish?,....BUT
without a pic ALL is a guess............Ddaves suggestions are crucial.....
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04/21/2014 2:39 pm
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list
Yes, that is what it looks like but I can only see the harp side on my coin. Originally I could only make out a small part what I thought might be a 2 cent piece. I soaked it in hot peroxide twice and was able to see a little more detail on the one side. Once I found a picture in the Red Book I didn't want to mess with it any more till I found more out about it. If I get superdaves reply I will forward pictures to him but the coin is not in very good condition.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list
I should have taken a better look at what I thought was a lady stretching. It is the left side of the harp but I honestly thought it looked like a lady stretching on the well worn coin.

In my opinion the harp is the same as what I'm seeing on the coin now.

Thanks to everyone for trying to help.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Here are images, although I'm unsure if they'll help:

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 Posted 04/21/2014  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
The pics help a great deal, Ddave. Even if you couldn't make out the letters of HIBERNIA in the legend, which I think you can, this harp is topped by what would never be found on an American coin after 1776: a crown. This should turn out to be a George III Hibernia halfpenny, or, more likely, one of the contemporary counterfeits, or "evasion" coppers, many of which came to America from forgers in Dublin. There are visible letters on the obverse as well. With better pics, we might be able to read a fictitious evasion legend, like GEORGE WASHINGTON, instead of the regal GEORGIVS III REX.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Yep, George ii Hibernian Ha' Penny...
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What's making you think George II, amida
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 Posted 04/21/2014  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
It appears underweight just going by the pics. More than likely a George III Hibernia Halfpenny. I'm with p. I'm wagering it's an evasion piece.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Lol, Philly! Missed an I ....George 3

Responding from the girlfriends "device".... Not a fan ...prefer a traditional keyboard........
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 Posted 04/21/2014  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list
Thank you all very much for the help. I was finally able to see the crown above the harp after someone mentioned it. I think if I had realized there was a crown there I would have been able to realize what it was as I had seen those type coins before somewhere.

Can someone please advise what an evasion piece is?
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