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What troubles me on the IHC is the base of the letters of 'AMERI' in AMERICA, for lack of a better term they look indented. On all IHC I have ever seen the bases of the letters are basically flat. |
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Korea, Republic Of
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The 1909SVDB has an added MM, and the 1860 just doesn't look "right"...
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Thanks everyone, might make a coin guy outa me yet. I didnt think they were genuine and just needed a few more eyeballs and opinions. I agree the MM is added on the 1909 and the 1860 is too clean and the letters and flaws (the owner says they are die errors) are IMO not die errors, they are die flaws in the CF die
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United States
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I like that 09S. Sort of would make a collector's item as one of the funniest fakes in a fake collection.
There are those that collect counterfeits. Wonder what they'd pay for that 09S.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It almost looks like they soldered on an "S" from a 1926 cent, such as below. Although the whole coin looks off. On the IHC, counterfeiters often mess up the date. That detail looks generally right--the distortion could be metal flow due to the off-center.  But I'm hardly an expert on errors.  Edited by DVCollector
04/23/2014 01:23 am
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It's interesting that there is even some Longacre doubling on the reverse of the IHC. Very deceptive if this is truly a counterfeit. |
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The bases of AME in AMERICA are wavy. I had to do a double take, but can't remember ever seeing this on a genuine IHC. anyone else? |
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United States
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The wavy bases could be due to metal flow if the collar wasn't completely around the coin.
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DVcollector - that's right, especially given the very slight MAD the coin appears to have. Do I see a 'broken E' in STATES? If so, I say that this coin is real.
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The wavy bases could be due to metal flow if the collar wasn't completely around the coin . DV-wouldn't that affect the top of the letters as well as the bases. I just have never seen it on any other IHC. I'm not arguing with you, just asking. |
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DV-wouldn't that affect the top of the letters as well as the bases. I think it would be less because the direction of metal flow is from the center to the rims. In other words, metal is flowing away from the bases of legends and towards the tops of legends, producing a better strike there. But I'm not an expert on strike errors...I'm just paraphrasing something I read.  Quote:
Do I see a 'broken E' in STATES? If so, I say that this coin is real. Good spot--yeah, that matches the broken "ES" listed for this year in my Snow guides. Edited by DVCollector
04/23/2014 2:55 pm
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09-S is a fake, the IHC appears to be a cleaned XF/AU |
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I think it would be less because the direction of metal flow is from the center to the rims. In other words, metal is flowing away from the bases of legends and towards the tops of legends, producing a better strike there. But I'm not an expert on strike errors...I'm just paraphrasing something I read Wavy letter bases are common on Capped Bust Halves. Here's detail from an 1823.  |
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United States
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Your all being to nasty to the counterfeiter that spent a lot of time making that 09S. Should give him a little credit for trying. And remember he will get better with time. Time possibly spent in a jail.
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Quote:What troubles me on the IHC is the base of the letters of 'AMERI' in AMERICA, for lack of a better term they look indented. On all IHC I have ever seen the bases of the letters are basically flat. Swallowtailing/fish tailing........ https://goccf.com/t/158271#topOregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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04/23/2014 6:45 pm
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