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Forum Dad
 United States
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Not allowed. They let it slide for modern bullion from the big guns, but not this.
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Valued Member
United States
331 Posts |
Looks like several of his listings are like this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Below, where it has the coin's stats, the cert.# says 5031. This is a # exclusive to PCGS Merc. 10c. That's how he's getting around it.
Edited by fioti 05/12/2014 12:07 pm
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Forum Dad
 United States
24185 Posts |
He's not "getting around" anything. If it reported correctly it will be removed. You must show clear pictures of the actual holder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9796 Posts |
Going through his listings he does have multiples of the same coins, but each one is photographed separately, I wonder if he is including the other coins and will just end the auction early on them if someone orders a multiple coin lot?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
589 Posts |
I would have no issue with this, but that's just me. He should have added the word random to the listing and maybe even a picture of multiple slabs.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
Doesn't matter what one thinks of the practice; it's prohibited by the rules. Requires you to buy the slab and not the coin, which goes against what we stand for.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1804 Posts |
Ssupperddave................... Quote: Doesn't matter what one thinks of the practice; it's prohibited by the rules. Requires you to buy the slab and not the coin, which goes against what we stand for. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
This is why I keep away from ebay. Never know what you'll get. If he does not show the actual coin, might get something different.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1704 Posts |
He had five of them, three sold and he has two left for sale. How it is allowed is he is listing them as a bulk item auction. This guy probably goes to major coin shows and cherry picks high grade coins in multiples at good enough prices to list them on ebay something like how the TV shopping networks get their inventory.
Edited by Gyrene7483 05/16/2014 01:09 am
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Forum Dad
 United States
24185 Posts |
justcarl, the seller's got almost 11,000 feedback at 100%. I think you'd be safe saving you paranoia for someone else.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
589 Posts |
I won these in an auction and it was a mistake. Why would I need 18 MS62 WLF  . If I were to sell these would I have to make 18 different listings or could I use words like randomly picked. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8137 Posts |
I think they let it slide for moderns but I do not think they do for this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2311 Posts |
Quote: Is a listing like this allowed? The seller has 3 available and 2 sold of a coin with the same grade, same date, same mintmark, and same grading company. I bet he did a bulk submission for MS-65 or higher coins. So the TPG's will say a 64 is a 65 in this case. And yes it it possible to have coins in same grade, date, and mint.
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Valued Member
United States
259 Posts |
I've purchased a few coins under similar circumstances on ebay (e.g. MS64 Washington Q's and MS66 Jeffersons) and invariably, the quality of the coin is below the one pictured. My interpretation is that sellers want to sell coins easily and with minimal effort, so they "commoditize" coins graded from original rolls by selling them 20 at a time on ebay. As we all know, coins within a grade are all unique and not every coin in that grade will appeal to every collector. I've also noticed some sellers say they won't accept returns of graded coins because a third party has decided the grade. Problem is, the third party doesn't select the photos supplied for the auction and lots of things critical to the appeal of a coin are missed, even with photographs. I don't buy from dealers with terms like these.
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