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Valued Member
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.....also to me looks fake
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Bedrock of the Community
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United States
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The only thing that sold it a fake for me was the 9 in the date, anything else that raises red flags? The denticles look pretty well struck
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Valued Member
United States
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The 9 digit looks way off.
I was going to suggest it came from an 85S. However, the only 85s with far date is VAM-5 and the mintmark doesn't match this coin.
So it could be from 85p with added mintmark too.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That severely tilted "9" definitely is a red flag. The first "S" in "STATES" doesn't look quite right, either. Hve you weighed this coin and/or checked its specific gravity so as to determine if it's an altered coin or a total forgery? Of course, in either case it's a loser.
Colligo ergo sum
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The 9 in the date is conclusive, and sufficient. Fake or faked.
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Pillar of the Community
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Without question this is a Fake or a date job where the 9 is made. I would check 1885 p VAM's to see where a match would fall. It could be an added mint mark and (9) Edited by twohawks
06/26/2014 5:08 pm
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Falling over "9". If you are gonna produce a fake will you at least make an effort to make it appear plausible.
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Valued Member
Italy
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....and what you think about this other 1895 S....is this fake too? [URL="http://postimage.org/]  [/url] [URL="http://postimg.org/image/alcrc6mub/full/]  [/url] |
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Hmmm... this new one is pretty tough. But my gut instinct telling me that this one is also fake. First, there is no VAM listing for 95s with high mintmark. And second, the date position doesn't match to any listed 95s. |
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I'd say the second one's also a phony simply on the basis of how much more the obverse appears to be worn (low XF) than the reverse (high AU or even BU).
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss
06/27/2014 3:17 pm
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May I ask (in general terms) what the source of these was? There in Italy, online, or ?
Colligo ergo sum
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The obv and rev pictures that you just posted look like 2 different coins. If you can't VAM them, then they are all most likely going to be fake. |
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United States
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Private auction of an uncertified U.S. coin outside of the U.S., no warranty, no returns, seller seems to have an inexhaustible supply of rare varieties. Plenty of reasons for alarm bells to be going off, even if a particlur coin looked to be good. I'd say ebay should be ashamed of themselves for their complicity in such scamming, but clearly ebay no longer has any shame. Colligo ergo sum
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