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How To Handle Shipping Overcharges?

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 Posted 08/09/2007  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
You know how high gas prices are. Maybe he lives really far away from the post office.

I'm with collect4fun here. I always factor shipping in with the cost of the coin. You could always let him know that his high shipping will prevent you from being a repeat customer.
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 Posted 08/09/2007  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
I normally don't care unless it's a Rediculous amount like 10$ over the actual cost. Or when they charge 25$ and use a flat rate box

Every single auction I just add the shipping into the final price that I am willing to pay for an item. If it's WAY too much I report it and if it's somewhat high I give them a Low star for shipping
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 Posted 11/23/2007  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list
There are plenty of sellers listing items at low prices (say 99¢) and have inflated post and pack charge so, even with one bid, they make money on the sale. I would not buy from them but people do!

My philosophy is to consider the total price, including postage, and bid accordingly. If seller will not give a postage quote on request then don't bid.

When selling I only charge postage at actual cost and consider the packing my responsibility. Buyers appreciate that and are more inclined to bid a little more to get an item anyway.

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 Posted 11/25/2007  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Mila, I know exactly what your going through with this ordeal. I will never bid on an item if I deem the shipping costs to be inflated. ebay shipping is a controversial subject. One time I won a Standing Liberty quarter off ebay. The shipping was $2.50 and when I got the coin, it was mailed in a regular letter envelope with a 39c stamp and to boot I had to pay a postage due! Now there was no need for a postage due when I paid ample postage. When I pay a higher shipping fee, I would expect a better shipping method to be used. This subject really makes me angry. Last I checked, fee avoidance was against ebay's policies.
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 Posted 11/25/2007  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list
what is postage due?
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 Posted 11/26/2007  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Postage Due is when the sender doesn't put enough postage on the package and you have to pay the difference to your post office.
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 Posted 11/28/2007  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
I am not in favor of ebay dictating to me how much I should charge for shipping. Every other on-line company you buy from charges variable shipping rates- it is capitalism. If we want a dictator fixing all the shipping, we should go to Cuba.

As many have said, ALWAYS factor in the shipping in your bid and read the entire auction before you bid. Lots of sellers have fine print and terms and conditions. When you bid on an item, you are agreeing to the conditions set forth in the auction. If you don't like the terms, shipping charges, when they will ship (some say 2 weeks!), or anything else (poor pics and seller won't send better pics) then move onto another listing. I do not think you can be angry with a seller for sending you something in a 58 cent envelope, as you agreed to the terms. However, you do have a right to be angry if the seller states they will ship priority mail and instead they ship a cheaper way. That's dishonest.

ebay's a la carte fee structure and heavy push for sellers to accept Paypal (with its 3% fee) significantly eats into whatever small profit the seller makes (range is 10-20% loss to EBAY/Paypal). I think increasing the shipping charge is a common strategy to help offset some of the fees. Charging $4-5 to ship one coin is all over ebay. I do not get the sense, especially with coins, that sellers are making all that much profit, even if their shipping is on the high side.
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 Posted 11/28/2007  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
The real issue in my case was the fact I paid $2.50 for postage and ened up paying a postage due because the seller pocketed the rest instead of using enough stamps to mail it. I paid the postage once, why should I have to pay more postage when the package arrives?
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11/28/2007 1:39 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
If the shipping is listed on an item and you buy it, expect to pay the listed amount and don't worry about the cost. You contracted to pay it and that is all that matters.

More importantly, the cost of the stamp is only part of the total realized cost. Just driving to the post office to get stamps is expensive, now.

The seller preformed exactly as they said they would on the listing. If the product is correct and delivery was timely, leave good feedback and get on down the road. The time to discuss shipping was before bidding, not now. If $4.50 for shipping was acceptable when you bid, it still is, otherwise you should not have bid on the item.

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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mila_cent to your friends list
FYI:
This particular seller charged me $4.50 for shipping (I was aware of the shipping charges). Which was fine with me.

When items were received, the seller paid and used $0.58 for postage. He did not use the total shipping charges ($4.50)to ship. Which leads me to believe he cheated me on the shipping charged and pocketed the balance.

All well and good. I will not be dealing with this seller ever again.
And that's too bad, cause he could of had me a as 'long time customer'


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11/28/2007 2:04 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Mila cent, some sellers actually use the freight charges to protect themselves. Auctions with minimums tend to be looked on with anathema and you have seen discussions here about schill bidding. Dad and mom have talked about the problems with starting an auction at 1 cent and taking the chance that some sellers take.

Still, the most active, so profitable, auctions tend to be those with no minimum and start at 1 cent. Some people take out a little insurance by fudging the freight. If it is then a good auction for them they have some extra profit.

The question is, would you have had he or she put a reserve on it of say $5. I know people here on the forum that won't even bid on one. I don't know how you feel, but it the real question. I have seen auctions where the seller gets completely ridiculous. Selling a Lincoln Cent, say, and having the freight at $25. Now I just factor that into my purchase price and bid accordingly knowing that the freight will be much less.

Sellers have problems like these that they have to work with and I guess I understand that and do not hold it against them. We all have had problems with sellers, but when you listen to mom and dad you see what they are dealing with, too. I am sure not saying anyone is right or wrong, just trying to understand both sides.
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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
I was simply outraged at having to pay a postage due when I in fact paid more than enough for postage and the seller chose to use 1 .39 cent stamp. And I ended up paying more than I should have overall. It's just another scam on fee avoidance. They might not get what they want from the auction so they inflate the postage to make up for that difference.
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11/28/2007 2:42 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mila_cent to your friends list
quote:
Selling a Lincoln Cent, say, and having the freight at $25. Now I just factor that into my purchase price and bid accordingly knowing that the freight will be much less.


Jim,
If I was to purchase this Lincoln with the understanding that the shipping rate be at $25, then I would expect the shipping charges of $25 would be used and my cent be shipped with the quoted charges and not less.

I'm sorry but if I was to send a coin or anything else and charge $25 to ship to you or anyone else in the (USA) then that is what I would spend to ship your item(s).
It bothers me to be charged a higher amount then turn around and ship it for less then it was originally quoted.
Just my opinion.

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11/28/2007 3:43 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2007  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Mila, I greatly appreciate your integrity, if only all people had your commitment. You may not change ebay, but I am sure you have a very positive effect on many others. Don't change, you have all my respect.
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 Posted 11/29/2007  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
nds76: I am sorry you had to pay postage due. I do have a recent personal story that shows that underpaying postage is not necessarily done on purpose.

I sold something recently on ebay that I was certain had the right amount of postage. I weighed it with my own sensitive balance (zeroing it first, of course). It was weighed after it was all packaged, sealed, taped, etc. After it was all packaged up and affixed the proper amount of postage. The buyer received it but owed 17 cents according to USPS. I think the difference here was because the USPS didn't zero their balance and effectively overcharged the postage (I wonder how widespread this potential problem is and how many Americans could be getting overcharged for postage?). Anyhow, I accepted responsibility and tried to make it right with the buyer. I was not trying to purposely underpay on postage. Because the anmount was only 17 cents, the buyer very nicely agreed to eat it- I would have had to write him a check for 17 cents and mail it in a 41 cent envelope. Honest mistakes happen. I told the buyer if he buys something else from me in the future, to expect something extra.
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