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Roman Coin - Attempt At Cleaning/Restore

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 Posted 08/06/2014  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
I'm with echizento on this one. It looked better uncleaned.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I would not have put this coin into ammonia I would have used distilled water and given long soaks with brushing periodically. Takes longer but better results I think.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
The difficulty with removal of surface material on this type of coin is while soaking and "brushing" will remove much of it very safely it will almost certainly take off all the remaining silver wash. Choices need to be made. Personally I feel a small improvement was made by revealing the silvering. The patina remains intact albeit now a lighter coloration which does not show well in the pics. The real test is how it looks "in hand".
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 Posted 08/06/2014  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
FR if I discover silvering, I use a very sharp scalpel to remove the surface dirt. Very slight pressure sometimes fractures the dirt allowing it to fall away leaving the silvering behind.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Pish you are much braver than I !
I have heard Ben say he has used 'sharp' pins to pick away encrustation.
Personally I never use any tool sharper than a bamboo skewer or a finger nail to rub the surfaces.


I have adjusted the contrast somewhat and otherwise darkened the shadows. I think it looks better and the silvering is more widespread than I thought.


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But ...... to each his own !
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 Posted 08/06/2014  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I just don't seem to be able to get a good picture of this coin. But I did try.

I think this one shows the silver better



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 Posted 08/06/2014  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
I do indeed use a sharp steel pin to clean coins. They start a bit too sharp for an application like this - I usually dull them a bit before Id try having a go at that.

It looks like a fairly alright job - you could do more on it. Id take a toothpick and work at the darker encrustation behind the head. YOu might have luck fracturing it - sometimes it will just fall off in clumps.

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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I would not suggest that anyone new to cleaning attacks their coin with a scalpel! If you are really serious about learning to clean coins, then slow and steady is what you are after. Eventually, you will know when to progress to the more lethal tools :)
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I only use an illuminated stereo microscope when using a scalpel to clean coins.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
More pics of one coin than I can remember !

One last go ....
Little bit o' brightener and a 'dash' of contrast.


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Original pic brightened
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I believe Ben is correct about the dark 'stuff' behind the bust, although I feel a bamboo skewer is easier to manipulate than a toothpick. Some of these crusty pieces may well flake off. Try soaking in olive oil for a few days to soften then up.

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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Thanks for all the replies .. positive and negative.

I purchased a couple of these coins cheap .. knowing
I wanted to see what it was like trying to get the green off. I did not want to hurt the coins .. and do know I was
being more aggressive than I should for just starting out with ancient coins. I have cleaned many modern coins

I do think I am getting to the point where I don't want to do any more to this coin .. that might hurt it more.

Will olive oil have any negative effect on the coin?
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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Olive oil is pretty safe. ITs slightly acidic, which is what does the cleaning, and darkens coins over time (if you have a green patina, clean it with DW).

I dont clean silver with it, and it may tarnish silvering, so id recommend using distilled water and extra patience.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
You never really know what a toothpick is made of. I recently bought some bamboo canes, the ones I thought we had turned out to be willow and no good for coins.

I have a stereo microscope, like binoculars on a long stem, and I use a halogen lamp to light from the side. It works well enough for me. I also recently got a USB microscope, very handy for identifying coins but not for much else. Any beginner, I would suggest starts with the distilled water and toothbrush,and works their way up to more dangerous methods, they will know when they are ready (hopefully). There is no substitute for patience.

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 Posted 08/06/2014  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
With the new photo it seems the coin did improve a bit, at least the obverse.
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 Posted 08/06/2014  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
I don't know if I like it better before or after. ...i'll call it a draw.

it is cool how much intact silvering there was underneath all that. thanks for sharing!
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