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New Member
 United States
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Guss, don't worry the coin is very well protected, I wanted to say it was "slabbed" but I'm not sure if that implies it has a grade, anyway it stays in a heavy duty coin case. I was pretty much terrified taking it out for pictures, I used gloves and carefully placed on a small microfiber towel, I can see how in the pictures it looks like I just keep them sitting on my dresser, lol.
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United States
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In any case GREAT news, thanks and if it is indeed a proof what grade would you assume? I believe I saw a 1886 pr67 in an auction go for very near $20,000, I'm far from an expert but I really think I have something with these
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Pillar of the Community
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Impossible to grade a proof without better pics, the reality is a couple scattered hairlines can be the difference between a 66 and a 62.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Both appear to be worthy of having slabbed by PCGS or NGC. I would really like to see some better photos of each though. Compare that '86 to the following link to see if your coin has the die markers of the proof dies. http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+VAM-15Edited by dave700x
08/06/2014 4:51 pm
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United States
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Thanks for the link Dave, and I will get some better pictures before I send them off. I'm looking at the coin under 16X magnification to compare to the link. The pictures on VAM show very distinct marks around the date (small dash by the 1, marks touching parts of both 8s, a very odd looking 6), the "ATES" in states are imperfect, there is a dash through the E and two very noticeable ones through the T. It took some careful, eye-straining examination, but my coin very clearly has all of these marks in the exact places they should be. I will upload some better pictures ASAP, but if I am correct about every "1886-P VAM-15 Proof Doubled 18-6, Dash 8" being there, does that mean it is a proof? |
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it means you probably do have a proof, yes. Don't get too excited until it gets certified, though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At first I thought a really dog-gone well-struck and designed fake, but I can't really decide...
They both appear to grade MS-65 (or more) DMPL or, if they are a proof, PR-65 (or more). Best of luck.
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New Member
United States
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These images should be a little better of the 86. I can't post it with the resolution any higher, if there is a way to do this please let me know. I didn't want to take it out of the holder for these but they are better than before. As you can see there is a lot of glare and you can actually see the camera lens reflected in the coin, there has to be a trick to getting the good photos. There are tiny tiny white spots on the coin I was hoping to show to see how they affect the grade. In any case, I am going to have them graded and hope for the best. First I want some better photos of both coins so any advice on doing this is appreciated.   |
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United States
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Now that I post them they're not much better at all, the glare makes the coin look messed up. if I work up the nerve to take em out of the case again I'll try again.
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Pillar of the Community
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That '86 is definitely a proof. Cool find!
PCGS offers a conservation service, they can look at the coin and make a decision as to if they'll do anything to it for you, if you request it. Might be worth it to see what they can do. I'm sure it's not cheap, the fee schedule is probably on their website somewhere.
Also, where are you located? Maybe we can refer you to a dealer that can help you out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know if you're aware, but depending on what the coin grades, it could be worth over $4 to $5 grand. Most proof Morgans I see don't have such a nice cameo look to them, and yours is very clean and frosty. I wish you the best.  |
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Valued Member
South Africa
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My mouth is watering oh my such art wow!
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New Member
United States
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I'm aware of the (possible) value now. I'm still deciding on options but will definitely have it graded by NGC or PCGS,
I'd like to send it off myself, I'm thinking NGC with the professional photo option, and possibly the conservation service for the '86. If they can get rid of the small white spots I would be VERY happy, my understanding is they come from small amounts of moisture getting on the coin, I would think there's something they can do.
The PCGS site says they don't have a conservation service, thus NGC, and personally I think the NGC slabs just look better. I realize all this will be costly but I think it's worth it for this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PCGS also has a rival professional photo option and a conservation and professional cleaning service, called TrueView and Restoration. There is also a Secure Plus holder that is stronger and better sealed if I'm not mistaken. If you do Secure Plus service, the photo imaging is free. I'm a bit bias so I would choose PCGS... Here are some of the professional images done by PCGS (photos are small because I had to optimize to post):   Edited by Cruisinfusion
08/08/2014 12:05 pm
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for the advice! I didn't know PCGS had that option, I will definitely look into it.
If the coin is going to be in a holder the rest of its life I want to make sure it's a strong, attractive one.
Once I get a grade on it I will post it, same with any imaging I have done.
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