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1964-D Kennedy Half Dollar With Xs On It. Error?

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 Posted 08/21/2007  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list
I think we're just all stumped Mark. There is nothing that is telling me that the coin is damaged or faked.
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 Posted 08/21/2007  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I am in no way saying this is what has happened in this case but I have seen post mint damage (deep scratch on the coin) after some wear fold over the scratch and look like a raised area kind of like what we are seeing on this coin, after it circulates for awhile the raised edges from the moved metal just fold over the scratch and hide it and it looks like it is something the die has done. Like I said I am in no way saying that is what happened here, just stating I have seen it happen before. I would expect a canceled die to have bigger "X's" than your coin shows so there would be no mistake the die wasn't supposed to be used
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08/21/2007 11:58 am
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 Posted 08/21/2007  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
It is after Mint damage. Think about this for a second...Depending upon the instrument used (in this case probably an exacto knife, When you cut into the metal with a sharp blade, you dont remove metal, you just move the metal. A raised line would be the result of the metal moving to one side of the blade.

They did not strike any coins with X's in them...

The other outside possibility is that someone used a punch on the coin after it left the mint.

Either way, it is not a Mint Error.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 08/21/2007  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
The two marks appear to have the exact same size, shape, and angle with respect to one another. My vote is a counterpunch with an X shaped tool. I haven't seen the coin in person, but by viewing the images and knowing what I do about coinage, I have to say the marks are sunk into the field of the coin - they cannot be raised. Sometimes lighting can give the illusion they are raised, and that's probably what its owner is seeing.

Without a doubt this was done after the coin left the mint. It's post-mint damage.
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 Posted 08/21/2007  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list
Hey Guys,
The marks have been confirmed to me by a local dealer as a post mint impression. Although a fine deception, it is someones prank. Thanks to all of you for your help though. I honestly couldn't beleive that this coin could have been real, but couldn't see anything to proove it fake. But one thing good turned up from all of this......The dealer also confirmed a good 37D Three Legged Buffalo I found in the same lot of coins. Now I need to send it in to have it graded.
Thanks again,
Mark
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 Posted 08/21/2007  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list
GRATS!
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 Posted 08/22/2007  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list
Can we see some pictures of your buffalo?
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 Posted 08/23/2007  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list
By popular demand.....Meet "STUMP" the 3 legged Buffalo. He is going on his US tour tomorrow to ANACS for grading and certification. I found a 1979P wide rim Susan B. Anthony today and a possible 2007P Washington Dollar Die Clash.

Mark

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 Posted 08/24/2007  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list
Gee, what a nice trade off! Congratulations and welcome to the forum!
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 Posted 08/24/2007  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list
Very nice buff! It'd be cool to see pictures of your Susan B and the die clash too.

08/24/2007 Password for question #10: ("We Want Pics!" *This will also work*)
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08/24/2007 07:03 am
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 Posted 08/24/2007  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list
OK Arthrene here is a pic the SBA wide rim you requested. I understand that the design was changed in the end of the 79 production and a limited number of these made it into circulation. The design has been wide rim from 80 on.

Mark

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 Posted 08/24/2007  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list
Awesome! Thanks for the pics! I'm still learning and so many errors and varieties are easier to understand (and to keep an eye out for) once they're seen.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list
I'm probably newer to coin collecting than you. I just started 3 months ago and in my spare time which is dwindling away. I will be learning in every post. I just inherited a rather large collection....unfortunately the collection was never properly documented or organized. I think I truly inherited coin collecting instead of a collection. I think I have a new addiction.

Mark
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 Posted 08/27/2007  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
Mark, you know now what my heirs can expect, when I "cash in my chips"! I got started too late, (after raising a family, and finally getting SS) I have a ton of wheats, and a good mix of the rest, and am too busy to try to make an inventory, or catalogue the entire collection. What with leaky plumbing, water-damaged steps, and a mile long "honey-do" list, there just isn't enough hours in a day! It's fun tho!
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 Posted 08/28/2007  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list
I can't wait to retire, I'm sooooo tired of working and coming home and working. I know what you mean Dick about the "honey-do" list. Between it, work and my hobbies I hardly have time to sleep. I'm finding coin collecting interesting, but just like you I should have been doing this when my eyes were still 20/20. I can't buy enough magnifiers to see some of these minor imperfections on these coins. Then I'll need an entire library of reference to know what I found. Like I said it's another new addiction.

Mark
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