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1909 S-VDB Grading You Versus PCGS

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 Posted 10/05/2014  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list
And also THANKS AGAIN BadThad! That "second thinking" thing has to go away, bout killed me, hopefully someday I'll get there. The wife approved and has a bit of interest in stunning wood grain cents now (I can't believe it)...but then she also claimed this one, since it's the second and "It's sooo pretty".

I agree the fields are clean, the eye appeal is stunning! I WG65 as well. But there are those that don't like the wood grain. The only nitpicking is the roundness and nicks on the rims in places and the hit on the shoulder. Not at all a concern for me.

I think the cheek is a reflection of the holder. I'll know more soon.

Thanks again!
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 Posted 10/05/2014  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I hope it looks more amazing in hand...I bet it will. I might even bump it to WG66 with better pics that can show the luster. The ONLY negative I see is it doesn't have horizontal WG...but that's pretty rare. To find it on an SVDB would be my dream coin. This coin's not far from what I would consider ideal for my collection.
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 Posted 10/07/2014  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Very nice I too was at MS64RB that woodie is a real beauty! Congrats on a key date that looks so nice ksmcents.
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 Posted 10/09/2014  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list
Thank you westcoin!

Just got the coin in hand...it's gorgeous!

Interesting to note though the pictures (lighting) do it really no justice. The brown grainy areas are actually a very subtle purplish red hue with the background (coin) a bright golden yellow, fascinating. The pic shows the coin "flat" in color (brownish, yet still impressive) while in reality it booms with character and drools with luster! Very pleased!

PCGS obviously downgraded IMHO due to the streaky planchet (obvious). In reality...it's red & yellow which is...red.











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 Posted 10/10/2014  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
How about some better pictures?
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 Posted 10/10/2014  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list

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Definitely! I'll work on it this weekend when I have some time.
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 Posted 10/11/2014  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list
BadThad...I tried...A photographer I am not... I'm considering PCGS True View for this, simply based on character and uniqueness. I haven't seen many like it.

Here at least you can start to see some of the purple...i cropped it...well because the picture sucked.


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Tried to capture luster...meh...fail.

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The purplish hue shows here...darker though than in hand, had to crop out the light reflections.

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I like this pic no real details but shows the dramatic WG...and the lightness in color is close to what you see in hand, still brown though...frustrating.

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Reverse attempt at luster...meh.

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I threw in pics of my other one...simply cause it made happy after frustrating attempts at taking pictures...enjoy. Minor Die Rotation, same grade 64RB NGC...full of colors Blue, Red, Purple, Yellow...etc.

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 Posted 10/11/2014  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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Tried to capture luster...meh...fail.


That is a GREAT educational picture....it makes the coin look very flat. I'm willing to bet if you just gave people just that picture you'd have more than one guess at EF Details- cleaned. I love educational posts like this one has turned out to be!

What kind of lighting are you using? I think that's why you're not capturing the luster. I can see a little glimmer of cartwheel here and there, mostly in your one reverse picture but it seems like the light is not quite strong enough. Light is #1 in coin photography....the camera is #2 believe it or not. Light requires a delicate balance - if it's too strong, you get overexposure and it cuts through the patina. Too weak (or angled improperly) and you lose the luster.
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 Posted 10/11/2014  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
This is the lamp I use....with an old, cheap Canon SD700. Notice how the head and arm allow for easy adjustment.


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 Posted 10/11/2014  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list

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What kind of lighting are you using?


Similar lamp set up with a 5k daylight bulb. Your desk looks identical to mine, tubes everywhere.

Last pics...taken with my wifes I-phone. Much better. Still doesn't truly capture the color though. At least the luster is somewhat present in these.


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 Posted 10/13/2014  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
I'm not seeing any wear on the reverse so I'm going with MS64RB. Sweet!
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 Posted 10/27/2014  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jhp2104 to your friends list
Great looking Coin! And thanks for the education about the lighting.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list
That is one sexy 09S VDB ... Give it to me, I have a nice spot for it that I've been keeping warm. Hahahaha.

Congrats on the purchase!
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 Posted 11/09/2014  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksmcents to your friends list

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Ha! I bet! Thanks Joe...maybe in 20 or so years when I retire from coins (or get too old to actually see them) I'll look you and Thad up to duke it out over it.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
And it would be a fight - I absolutely LOVE that coin. Then again, in 20 years I'll be too old to see @ 71.
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