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1908 Specimen Set -- Mint Errors On 3 Coins In The Set

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 Posted 10/04/2014  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
I certainly appreciate that view. Personally, I think errors are cool and I enjoy finding them. I guess I'm more drawn to that "one of a kind" appeal, but that's not to say the market would react the same way. Notwithstanding, I have no intentions of ever parting with the set, but I am interested in finding out more about the existance of such errors, as well, I do need to make some decisions regarding storage & presentation.
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 Posted 10/04/2014  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
I would hard slab them to help protect them and keep them away from any negative atmospheric effects.

In time and in the original case, they might continue to darken to an extreme.. and lessen their visual appeal.

If you could have someone get sharp pics for us here,..that would be nice and we could have a view of the doubling or flaw.

Considering the extra effort in preparing specimen strikes,..it's odd to hear of this many problems in one set..
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 Posted 10/04/2014  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
Thanks Devlec. Is there a TPG you'd recommend? Or just slab them myself? I don't know anyone that can help me on the photo front. I bought one of those stupid lighthouse microscope cameras with terrible resolution and heavily flawed software, which I couldn't get to work properly so I returned it. Might buy one of those new macro lense things to attach to my smartphone...
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 Posted 10/04/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Seeing as it's an 08 set,..you're best to get it to ICCS or PCGS for validation as to them all being SP coins. Take care of that case also because the leather is also fragile.

I don't like the effect of my Lighthouse camera either..and almost always rely on a good camera with a macro lens now.

Excellent info in the coin photo section in the CCF forums. ..and always be extra careful when handling SP's.

Good luck with that nice set..
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 Posted 10/04/2014  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
need to ask you this:
are you sure the coins are the original coins which came with the set original, or is it possible that someone exchanged them at some time?
Because these coins were rigidly scrutinized before being placed into the purple red box.
I had one some time ago (large 8 in the 5 cent) and received an unsolicited offer which I could not refuse.
I understand the box alone is worth several hundreds of dollars.
they were all a perfect (ICCS SP 65)
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 Posted 10/05/2014  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
Good question. I'm certainly no grading expert, especially when it comes to SP grades. Aside from the 1c, the remaining coins in the set appear to be original; showing the right balance of condition perfection and toning (mine is the small 8 set, by the way). The 1c did look suspicious to me in the onset simply because it's error was so obvious. The remaining "doubling" errors on the other pieces can only be seen using a 20x magnifier. The box itself is in reasonably good shape.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
skip79 - can you post any pics? Some members have photo enhancing software including me, pics would be much more helpful.
For anyone wondering what a 1908 set looks like here's a pic I found..
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 Posted 10/05/2014  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Oh..pennyman..That is a sweet set..Easy to see that the cent was lacquered..at the mint..

Remember that the red leather case is prone to damage. I've wrapped my 1911 case up ..
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 Posted 10/05/2014  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Devlec - I wish it was mine I got the pic off the net way earlier this year I believe..just for reference and drooling. lol
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 Posted 10/05/2014  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
A touch.."Off-Topic" ..OK....a little test..

Here's my 11 case..."Specimen Coins ..Silver and Bronze..Ottawa Mint..1911"..
.what's right or wrong here..? ..as reported by Charlton..

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10/05/2014 3:34 pm
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 Posted 10/05/2014  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Answer to DEVLEC.
Coin holder has 6 slots (1 for dollar coin) and was never issued.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
BINGO..!! Give JimmyD a beer..

Well ..this is my 11 set..so who'd going to tell Charlton..?

....and sadly it was missing one coin when I bought this 5 coin set in the 80's...

The Charlton pic only shows a very rough 6 hole case with the top half missing and broken in half.. Very rough handling for sure..
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 Posted 10/06/2014  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
OK...The moment you've all been waiting for. I have FINALLY been able to photograph (to the best of my ability) the affected coins. For the record, trying to take photos of very delicate coins with one hand, while using a heavy iPad in the other hand to photograph is as much of a pain in the @$$ process as it sounds. But alas, here you go.

Note the "Gratia Rex" for the doubling on the 50c, and the 2xDES
Note the rim on the 3-4 o'clock position of the 1c


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 Posted 10/06/2014  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
As I mentioned before, these coins might have been exchanged by someone.
Unlikely this set made it out of the mint like that.
But then again, worse things have happened.
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 Posted 10/06/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Thanks for giving us the best that you could on these.

The planchet flaw on the cent is very interesting and the experts here might feel that a bit of gas trapped in that cent could have caused it to split open like that. But I'm only guessing because I don't have any expertise in these coins, and I can't see any doubling with these pics unfortunately..

If these coins are flawless in their strike and overall surface, then that's great "as specimens".

If these coins are flawless and truly perfect on their surfaces and are "business strikes",..then that would be even more rare. Super high end business strike 08's are very tough indeed.
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