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1973 RCMP Framed Set

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 Posted 10/15/2014  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
The cracking might be the frame itself...

I think the presentation looks good... but if you HAVE to get in it.. I would use a dremmel type tool with a cut off saw... and cut the band of metal at one of the top corners... with one band removed I think you could get the rest out with a bit of work.
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 Posted 10/15/2014  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lyradnoj to your friends list
I have these same sets and several others. No idea where they originally came from but some have a 1989 date stamp on the back of the frame.
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 Posted 10/15/2014  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
Mine doesn't have a date stamp (neither the 1967 or 1973 set), but if assembled in 89, then I would presume no LB varieties exist, and thus no need to break into the frame
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 Posted 10/15/2014  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list
Take it to an art dealer or a professional framer, see what they say.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Skip79.why not.
last time I checked, 1973 came before 1989 and hence it is possible to have 73 LB in the set.
or am I not getting it?
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 Posted 10/16/2014  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list
Isn't there a way to examine the positions of the beads of the crown and the beads around the rim to see if it's large bust or not? I remember seeing pictures here on this forum regarding this
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 Posted 10/16/2014  10:31 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
These sets are quite common and come in many different variations and themes. One company that promoted them was American Express Canada, and there were many others. The coins they packed in these various sets were hardly numismatic. The chances of a find of something good ,is less than zero. enjoy it dont destroy it and hang it on a wall.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
Thanks all. I will leave them as they are.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
I know a old collector he has his study (rather large with a great view) full of them. he also has a couple of NFL sets with one $ 2 coin in each set. There are also 2 sheets of $1,$2 and $5 , framed. I had never seen a $ 5 sheet before. have no idea how he got it.. he will not say, except that it is for real.
he is 93 and still very sharp and active. Know him for a long time (about 30 years) and he promised me first crack at his collection if and when he decides to sell while still around. He is the only collector I know in Western Canada who has some serious rarities, like a 1871 20 cent (rarer than a hens teeth) and a full set of each decimal coins from 1870 (incl NLCW) to 1967, yes, including the 1921. (yes,1921 and the 50 is AU+ and the 5 looks the same or better). many of the sets are MS, but most of them XF and better. It is simply amazing to see these sets he put together. all nice and neat in lighthouse type drawers, and none is graded!
This gentleman also started into varieties already in the late 70ties. You guys can imagine his treasures.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
47: Nice friend to have... would be nice to go over to his place and see what he would pull out for show and tell on occasion...
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I forgot to say earlier, when I dismantled mine, the actual coins were glued, with real glue, to the back. Like coins the metal glued directly on to the cardboard with an ugly brown and now very hard glue.
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During the sept airing of the coin show, Steven Bromberg was selling framed Canadian & American coins of the Twentith Century. Each collection featured about 40 coins with the different denominations types and Monarchs/ presidents / metals of the time period, with the artwork depicting various historical achievements.

This would indicate to me, Steven's company could be the source, or possibly know who made them. It may be worth it to contact his company Canadian coin & currency, asking them if it's one of theirs or if they know who produced the sets.
Their current framed sets can be veiwed on the shopping channel. I would think if it's produced by them or another publisher, it's highly unlikely a large bust coin was used. Talks with knowledgable collectors indicate the large bust variety were only found in collector sets and not in business strike coins.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
Yeah, Bromberg sounds like a plausible brain behind their creation. I'll connect with him and see. He's big on set assembly and hitting the broader consumer market.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list

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....large bust variety were only found in collector sets and not in business strike coins.

There are indeed business strike large bust '73s, a couple of members here have told of finding them in change back in the day. MS examples can be quite pricey, circulated examples, affordable.
The large bust variety was known soon after it appeared, prices were crazy for a while. The framed set was most likely assembled after the large bust was known and thus unlikely to contain one, unless assembled by someone living under a rock.
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