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1880-O Morgan Dollar. What Grade?

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 Posted 01/15/2015  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list
Off it goes for grading
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 Posted 01/15/2015  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mullen to your friends list
I didnt read everyones posts but the first few people that claim ms-63-ms64 are way off for sure. 1880-o Morgans are VERY RARE in high grades. My guess is it will hit AU-58.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
When I first saw this I thought maybe MS 61-62, but MorganGrader's explanation is convincing for me, so I'll have to agree with AU. Very educational thread, and hopefully MorganGrader sticks around.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shale to your friends list
Should this be moved to grading forum? I'mgoing to follow up on this one, very curious.
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 Posted 01/16/2015  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list
MS-61, 62 on a really good day. PG
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 Posted 01/16/2015  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have seen Morgans picture like this one has, with a slight darkening on the cheek like this one, and come back as high as MS63.
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 Posted 01/16/2015  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list

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Off it goes for grading


Who'd you decide upon to do it?
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 Posted 01/16/2015  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list
Wow is it ever expensive to grade with pcgs
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 Posted 01/16/2015  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list
It only costs about $25 or so per coin if you can find somebody who is willing to let you place it on their submission.
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 Posted 01/16/2015  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list
I have to agree with MorganGrader here. While the reverse looks pristine, the obverse shows some signs of circulation. I may be wrong, but I have to give this an AU58, on a good day it might go MS60. I hope I am wrong, but it's just how I see it.
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 Posted 01/16/2015  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Well, NCG called this one MS66 so there

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311257543798?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=311257543798&_rdc=1
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 Posted 01/16/2015  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Yeah, but I'll bet it crosses to an SGS MS67.
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You guys crack me up
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 Posted 01/16/2015  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It would cost a lot, but it would be an interesting hypothetical to send this coin to all of the most used grading services, just to find out how large the grading range for this coin in particular, and for 'sliders' in general, can be.

The collector has often had to face the alternatives;
send to a lower fee TPG, and hope for a generouis grade,
or
send to a higher fee TPG, that is known to grade conservatively, and achieve a grade that more buyers can accept.

I really like to make my own mind up about grading before deciding to buy. The age old considerations of price vs condition always still come into play. For this reason, I prefer 'raw' coins, and to examine each coin 'in hand' first.
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Since you said you're sending it out....

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