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How do you know the label is wrong, maybe the label is right but the coin is wrong.  |
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I just don't get it!!. If this was a lesser known slabber the world would fall apart with laughter and derision, but it's ok for PCGS to make a mistake.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The label is probably correct, it's just on the wrong slab. Saw this happen in the Marshall collection of conder tokens. Two tokens misidentified. Consecutive serial numbers, the The label on the first token belonged on the second one and the label on the second one belonged on the first one. They had simply switched the two labels when they were encapsulating them.
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I just don't get it!!. If this was a lesser known slabber the world would fall apart with laughter and derision, but it's ok for PCGS to make a mistake. Recalibrate your meter. There's plenty of derision here, and if it isn't enough I'll happily add more.  |
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Oh, there are plenty of bad labels in the top tier to go around. I have an 1867 3CN marked 3CS. And I bought my 1851O from a dealer at a local show marked just 1851 - while discussing with the dealer that ANOTHER dealer had an incorrectly labeled Franklin that he wanted Moon money for the 'error'. I don't think he knew what he was selling me, as the 1851O should have been about $40 more... (VF30)
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Recalibrate your meter. There's plenty of derision here, True just not of the same sort. For a non-major service it would be held up as proof that the service was completely incompetent. Do these label errors mean that PCGS and NGC are completely incompetent as well? |
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The number of administrative errors we see here from both PCGS and NGC is unacceptable. Numismatics is too precise to tolerate an error rate which would be excessive in most other forms of manufacturing. It's not that you screw up, it's that you don't let the screwups leave the building and they fail miserably at this simple proofreading step in the process. After all the care they supposedly put into evaluating your coin, they can't even get the label right? Nope.
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You are assuming that the people who operate the sonic welding machines have numismatic vs. mechanical aptitude. They don't. They're hired to put coins in holders and seal them. If the label doesn't match, how would they know?
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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They're hired to put coins in holders and seal them. If the label doesn't match, how would they know? Hire people who know the difference between a Quarter and a Half. The 9-year-old in my household could do that with 5 minutes of instruction. They're hiring people who can't identify coins? Nope. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's their job to put the coin and label in the holder and seal it. Fair chance they aren't even reading the labels.
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Here's mine. If you look up the cert number, you will see that PCGS thinks this is a quarter. PCGS's own True View photo would seem to contradict that. I can't quite get up the gumption (or the shipping costs) to send it in to be corrected. I should mention that I am the one who sent it in for grading, and there was no 1908-D quarter in the submission. So it wasn't a swapped label, just a typo.  Edited by ProfLiz
02/18/2015 8:02 pm
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It's their job to put the coin and label in the holder and seal it. Fair chance they aren't even reading the labels. That's the only possible explanation, and where they fall on their faces in my opinion. Upstream QA obviously isn't getting it. |
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I did a submission yesterday to one of the top tier (4 according to la Bey). Not the one with five letters (they were the next table down). One of the three letters only does shows in/near Florida. So that leaves you two to guess from...
I showed the nice lady my 1861 Medallic Alignment 3CS that hadn't been marked as such. I said it's pretty clear and tried to show her. What she said was "I'm not a numismatist, I'm the event planner". She did call the office, and had one of the graders look at the photos and it IS clear, so they'll fix it. But I'm guessing the staff really doesn't do the numismatic stuff. If it's old & dark and crusty that's good enough for sticking it in the slab.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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