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As I mentioned, I don't usually seek these out, but I bid at my coin club's auction and won a '75 set for $3.50, so I'm putting them in flips and wanted to know what to label them as ... they still look different than MS to me though. Thanks again.
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1975 Mintage 36,581 Issue Price $8.00 Finish Circulation MS-65 trends $15.
As per Charlton Page 344 2009 Edition
I think you got a bargain
Was it in the 1975 Maroon outer case vinyl-covered case with Canada's Coat of Arms and the word Canada stamped in gold on the top. That is the case listed for this set. Custom set with one of each denomination with an extra cent to show obverse.
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Was it in the 1975 Maroon outer case vinyl-covered case with Canada's Coat of Arms and the word Canada stamped in gold on the top. That is the case listed for this set. Custom set with one of each denomination with an extra cent to show obverse. That's the one. I also won a 1992 BU dollar (.500 silver) for $4.50. I love coin club auctions sometimes! I just saw you're in NS ... is it Halifax? The only active clubs I know are Halifax (I was VP when I was there) and the new club in Truro. Edited by chequer
03/19/2015 9:39 pm
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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1975-Canadia...em4d2f246d32Edit - they describe it as a Specimen set but the Card says Uncirculated "Your uncirculated coins have been car..." in the photo, bad advertising. Saw this one on the Bay for $19.09 Cdn. Yes in Northern NS, am trying to get to a meeting in Truro but it has stormed every week. Just missed a nice Specimen 1973 Quarter someone swooped in at the last second and outbid me, couldn't hit confirm in time. Argh. BU Silver Dollar for $4.50 good deal as well. Nice.
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03/19/2015 9:49 pm
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Just put the dollar in a 2x2. They aren't circulation coins as I have some '75 circulation dollars on my desk and the one from the set has the squared rims and the strike is a lot stronger. These have to be PL at a minimum.
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The double cent sets, are specimen strikes, compare them with proof-like strikes...
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Sorry, I have to beg to differ, just going by what I am reading - Charlton 2009 Page 344 - set me straight if this is not accurate. I don't have a set, I have the prestige set. I am not all firmly entrenched in this argument - I have seen two ads, one the Coin Gallery for ads for Double Penny Specimen Sets and another I have shown above. In the ad above you can see the card. So I would like to try to clear this up. Charlton 2009 notes - "custom sets with one of each denomination, with an extra cent to show the obverse. The finish on the coins is identical to the equivalent year of brilliant uncirculated, brilliant relief on a brilliant background." This is how the Specimen/Prestige set is described as well. Circulation Finish - MS-65 - Trend Value $15That was the kicker for me, as any specimen strike would be graded SP-, any Proof like strike would be graded PL-. Here is the text. Issue price was $8.00 in 1975. Prestige Set was $15 in 1975. Must have been some difference in the coins with this difference in price. Edit - additional Silver Dollar included in the Prestige Set after 1973.   Edited by SilverDon
03/21/2015 08:05 am
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I'd be curious in knowing what the new NCLT Charlton says (whatever it's called, I don't collect, so I'm not sure). They are definitely not MS strikes, there's no question in hand, now I just need to see some PL coins so I can learn to distinguish easily between PL and SP. I guess this goes to show not to take anything for granted, even it it's in print.
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My sentiments exactly, seeing the MS vs SP in the grade category made me think, then seeing Circulation vs Specimen in the Finish category made me go in that direction for the Double Cent Set. The coins talk.
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03/21/2015 08:23 am
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Look at the coins - not the book... the double dollar, and double cent sets, are specimen strikes... What the book does not say, is that some of the double dollar sets contained mint-lacquered coins...
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Thanks SPP, and you are correct Chequer.
So Quatchi, the answer to your question.
Yes.
All that stuff I wrote above - as Miss Emily Litella would say -
nevermind.
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For some reason, none of the 1973 Double Dollar sets contained lacquered coins, so it is almost darned near impossible, to find a 100% red specimen cent dated 1973. I managed to find two not long ago, the original owner liked his coin sets in capital holders, so he cracked out the specimen sets and they were preserved when I bought them. One is in my collection, the other one I sold to a friend... Most 1973 specimen cents in collections, often come from the double penny sets, because the red fluff in the prestige sets has ruined many coins. You often will find them red on one side, toned in a variety of colours, on the other... this is a pair or cents from a specimen double cent set:  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Thanks everyone for the research and effort put in to answer this question for me!  I'm definitely going to replace my Specimen coins that came from the 71-73 Prestige sets with Specimen coins from the Custom "double penny" sets. |
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Be sure to closely examine the coins... the double penny sets were sold cheap for a reason, they were just 'placed' in the red and maroon boxes... if the box was dropped, the coins would jar loose and scratch each other in the case.
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Thanks for the heads up SPP-Ottawa, I'll be on the look for fingerprints too while I'm at it considering that they're easily touchable in those boxes.
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