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 Posted 03/16/2015  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LeeG to your friends list
The Isabella Quarter dollar can be found nice without much effort. There is a nice price increase at the MS65 level. I would be patient and find a nice example with good eye appeal.

Here is a MS64 I used to own:

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 Posted 03/16/2015  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizzy1 to your friends list
I'm going to answer with another question. I'm very new to commemoratives so I don't have a type set built up, just a few 50c columbian expo coins in the xf/ au range. So what would be the best bang for my buck in terms of maintaining value or better yet increasing in value. I don't think ms64-65 is in my price range though.
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 Posted 03/16/2015  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Well you can really find some nice MS62-63 Isabella's with nice looking appeal at reasonable prices. At those grades you will eventually see gradual price increases more so than the lower grades. Also I would strongly advise that you use this web site to find out the FMV (fair market value) of any coins you may consider buying http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml I've been actively been collecting commemoratives trying to complete the Classic and Modern Commemorative series. I think I bit off more than I can chew cause that is a real daunting task not to mention expensive. I'll be taking a dirt bath before I complete that but me having fun trying. Something else to consider the 50 State Quarters are actually circulating commemorative as well as the National Park Quarters. So are the Presidential dollars until the mint a few years ago also cut off sending them to banks for circulation. Now they are only available from the mint. Good luck to you in whatever avenue you decide to pursue in your collecting. Oh yes one thing I learned early in my collecting...Buy The Best You Can Afford!
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 Posted 03/16/2015  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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Something else to consider the 50 State Quarters are actually circulating commemorative as well as the National Park Quarters. So are the Presidential dollars until the mint a few years ago also cut off sending them to banks for circulation.

These aren't really "commemorative sets" in the same way the classic and modern commemorative coins are - they are more a topical or thematic series without any ties to specific anniversary dates.


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 Posted 03/16/2015  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list

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So what would be the best bang for my buck in terms of maintaining value or better yet increasing in value.


With all due respect ... this is a question that is difficult to answer.

Experienced collectors of the classic commemorative coin series (in fact most coin series) ... do not consider the collection as an investment and do not target acquisitions as a way to gain financial appreciation.

There is of course a hope that some coins will appreciate in value ... and over the long term the best appreciation has generally been seen in the true high end examples.

If you want an Isabella for your collection ... the best price appreciation potential lies in a certified MS66/MS67 CAC coin ... which you have stated is currently beyond your means to acquire.

Soooooo ... what will you be happy with as a novice commemorative collector?

I humbly suggest an honestly circulated XF example ... such a coin would likely have pleasing surfaces and sufficient detail to elucidate the entire original intent of the issue.

Such an example is relatively affordable and available ... key points to consider.

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 Posted 03/16/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
@commems no they are not in the sense of being issued from the mint as a Commemorative per say but they are referred to as circulating commemoratives. Ipso facto the State Quarters do depict what each state is known for and if they were all the same then you argument would hold water. Each National Park has a history that is in each coins description as well as the Presidential dollars. Maybe I'm not a purist as you are with commemoratives but I do respect your opinion but in turn I'm entitled to mine and believe me I'm not the only one who feels the same way. We have all heard that in coin collecting there is no set way in which one must collect. We all observe the guidelines but all add our personal touches to our collections. So let us both be happy in our appreciation of Commemoratives and appreciate the fact that if we were all the same this hobby would be pretty boring.
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 Posted 03/17/2015  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Well, he actually said (emphasis mine)...

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These aren't really "commemorative sets" in the same way the classic and modern commemorative coins are - they are more a topical or thematic series without any ties to specific anniversary dates.

I love my coins, but not in the same way that I love my family. Love is still love though.
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 Posted 03/18/2015  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizzy1 to your friends list
Ok, now I feel kind of bad placing investment values on this. Obviously to people on this forum commemoratives are much, much more than that, so my apologies.
Let me put the question a different way. Being a newbie I don't want to be stuck with the proverbial pig in a poke. I'm trying not to get a coin that is way under valued compared to other Isabella coins.
So let me give you a concrete example. I found a ANACS slabbed AU50 Isabella for $299 on ebay. I hope this link works
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/351323369330
It's sold by ghengis_coins.
I could do this. Is it a winner or do I keep looking

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 Posted 03/18/2015  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-Isabel...em4636a11022
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-Isabel...em2ede5e346e These may be better offers and definitely better rated grading services. I didn't finish searching but I sure there are more!
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 Posted 03/18/2015  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Please don't take me wrong you coin that you are considering is a nice looking coin just I think you could get better for the same money or a bit more. Just my humble opinion. Good Luck with whatever you choose to do.
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 Posted 03/18/2015  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@BadToTheBone: I wasn't trying to start a "fight" or disparage the way you or anyone else collects - I'm sorry if my comments came across that way. I certainly have always supported the concept of - "Collect what you like and make no excuses about it!" I'm sure some folks here shake their heads when they see some of the items I collect.

We all need to be happy with our collecting pursuits - I was just trying to make the distinction between the various circulating topical series struck by the Mint and the two annual sponsored commemorative programs.


@Wizzy1: Please don't worry about asking "investment" questions here - many of us are happy to help fellow collectors in this area.

The coin you linked to is a reasonable AU coin at a reasonable price. As BTTB pointed out, there are a good number of AU Isabella quarters out there from which you can select for your collection.

If your current budget has you focusing on AU coins, I would suggest finding one that has a "look" that you find particularly attractive - whether it be toned or brilliant. An AU Isabella is generally not considered an "investment grade" coin - its price fluctuations are almost always small in comparison to higher-grade pieces and its upside potential is relatively limited. Because of this, I would suggest finding one you like at a price below $400 and not worrying too much about its investment potential. Just my thoughts...


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 Posted 03/18/2015  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
@ Wizzy1 ... home from work now and contributing my thoughts to the discussion ... hopeful that you have accepted all of our 'advise' in the spirit offered ... support for you and education ... the key mission of the CCF.

Choose whatever Isabella resounds with you ... the coin that makes you happy to hold and look at. You select the grade and look ... whatever that might be.

The ebay coin you linked to is a fair price for a nice coin ... if it works for you.

I caution against purchasing a raw Isabella for you ... primarily because of the potential for either surface issues or counterfeit examples ... trust that I learned that lesson in a very expensive way when I was new to the series.

My best advise ... take the time (slow down) to look at many examples of certified Isabella ... decide for yourself which one makes you the happiest at that price ... then purchase.

The classic silver commemorative series is IMHO the most challenging set of USA coins to acquire ... each example being different ... and each filled with tremendous stories.

Enjoy the journey towards YOUR Isabella ... take your time ... it will work out.

We will help as possible whenever you inquire.

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 Posted 03/18/2015  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
@ commems No Problemo my friend. I never took it that way and I looked at it as debate. I also look at it this way we are collectors of commemorative coins and we travel the same route just different avenues toward the same goal.
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 Posted 03/18/2015  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizzy1 to your friends list
Great advice, I'll take the last one to heart,go slow. I'm so pumped about this, I have jumped in with both feet. So I will take my time. The example I posted was just that, an example. I think a brilliant white coin is what I want but it's easy to be fooled by these to a neophyte. A toned coin seems like a more reliable choice. It seems like all grading services are not created equal,by the comments . I'll learn it all but it takes time.
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 Posted 03/19/2015  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
See Wizzy1 you've gotten some excellent advise from many different people and not to worry we all started where you are now. Let us know when you finally get your Isabella. They are a classic coin for sure with and interesting history.
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