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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a piece of Rim Fin or bur folded over and struck in. IMO it goes under the rim Edited by Alexer
03/29/2015 9:05 pm
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The fact that the clip slice is under the rim satisfies my logic that it is a start of a planchet clip. When the planchet is struck , the lower die forces metal into the collar formation compressing that metal into rim material. That rim material is clean and forms a unmarked rim precisely because it is not a full clip. It goes under the rim because the planchet is sliced, not cut right through. But we need a close up photo of the other side of the bur or Rim Fin to make sure it is not a piece of stray metal shavings. |
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I'll try to take a good shot of the other side of it tonight.
Thanks
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There's something on the opposite rim near DG.
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lambecolin: Here are a couple of other shots from a new angle.   kbbpll: This is the opposite side above D.G.. This is probably what you are looking at, but I don't think it relates?  |
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I don't know much about "Blakesley effect" other than it's on opposite rim, so I figured I'd point it out. Edit: I guess Blakesley is caused by the missing metal opposite on a "real" clip so probably doesn't apply here since nothing is missing.
Edited by kbbpll
03/30/2015 6:17 pm
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I think it's a mark on the die itself, Steve, similar to a tool mark. I've seen several variations of this mark on pennies 1997 - 2001. Yours is a good strong mark; keep your eyes open and you may find a twin to this coin. I'll check my collection and see if I have a mate to it myself.
Edited by pennysaver
03/30/2015 7:59 pm
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Thanks, all and Pennysaver. I'll put it aside!
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It may well be the die if we can match a few so here's another one I found near instantly. 1998  |
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I'm changing my mind on this one-------Not a burr or extra metal shavings---thinking about how clips originate I would want to see more examples of partial start clips. Sooo---I now vote for die problems--following "Pennyman"
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I wish I can find where I put mine, I remember running my fingernail on it to make sure it was raised. No matter how hard I look it's just not on my desk anymore  |
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I'm thinking that it's what's called a spur, as outlined in CandC with some of the cents/minor variety. IMO.
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I haven't found any spur examples yet, but will keep looking. I originally thought a partial clip because it was similar to the 1969 cent at this link (without rim damage and the 1962 does have rim damage)... http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-err...e-clip&id=37.... though not convinced and will keep an open mind to all the suggestions. This is the only one I have found. |
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Steve, I also went through the CandC cent index, it looks to have been removed, there were quite a few year examples of exactly what you've shown and I had put quite a few away last year as a minor variety. Wish I could offer more on this. I'll keep doin more searching on it. Cheers. Jon
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Since it only occurs on one face, and since it's so short, it's not an incomplete clip. It's some form of die damage, probably a die dent.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond
04/06/2015 11:24 am
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