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Pillar of the Community
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Bob, you are correct... The reverse is in better shape than the obverse for sure.
Also, the photo is really not very good. The slab is old and beat up, so I was trying to shoot around scratches/scuffs on the plastic as well as fighting the lighting at those odd angles.
Either way, keep the guesses coming!
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Pillar of the Community
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I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see it in a "65" grade. The GWC's are one, if not the, hardest commems to accurately grade. I've seen coins that look like yours be all over the place numbers-wise. Nothing would surprise me with yours, too.
Cool pickup!
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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From your images, my initial reaction is to call it a VF coin, maybe VF-30.
Am I seeing some luster on the reverse?
The fact that you posted that we might be "surprised" does have me intrigued. Are we looking at a coin that appears to have visible wear but has has been judged by PCGS as exhibiting a "weak strike" and therefore more than a VF coin?
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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We have quite the diversity of grade opinions so far ... F12 to MS65!
I was able to examine the coin in hand under good light - and claim some level of expertise in judging the grade of classic silver commemorative coins.
Had the coin been raw ... I would have judged as VF25/VF30.
David
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Pillar of the Community
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I'd guess F-12, but the fact that you posted it here tells me I'm wrong.
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It's probably a true 65 at todays standards with original toning if this is a 65 then the one in my type set must be at least a 68. On this monitor it looks like a F15 or so, but this worn out old thing makes everything look less than it is so I will say VF20. But what do I knoww? |
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 Here we go. Its graded MS 63... I was shocked when I saw the grade in person. Saw the coin first and without seeing the reverse, I said to myself "F-VF and a tougher date in circulated condition". Looked up and saw the grade on the rattler and said to myself "I need this coin, as an oddity if nothing else!". The reverse is niver than the obverse for sure. Not sure how/why, but I still feel that the lower grade obverse and the nicer reverse should have earned this coin a net VF 20 or 25. Thanks to you all for playing along. |
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I've got an 1882-S Morgan that's graded MS65 in an old TPG holder that is just as confusing as this one is. Nice test HONDO and nice coin!  |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Wow! A grade of MS-63 is just shocking to me. Your images show what appears to be a worn coin - I wonder what the graders at PCGS saw to make them consider it a mint state coin?!
Congrats on the purchase - you've definitely added another "conversation starter" to your collection!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Fully concur with the 'surprise' of PCGS MS63. With the coin in hand, I was quite confident of a mid-VF grade. I have no clue what the wizards were thinking back in the day when they judged this one. It is a great conversation piece. Well obtained HONDO. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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In the early days of my lowball commem set I had purchased an XF45 Maryland in an SEGS holder. I cracked it out and sent it in to PCGS and in came back in a MS62 holder. Not what I was looking for.
There is no way that Hondo's GWC should be in a MS63 holder. I guess that the person that graded it also graded the King of Siam set that keeps getting better grades over time. :)
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Interesting. Never would have guessed this outcome.
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Pillar of the Community
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Incredible. When I first saw it I was thinking a solid VF25.
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