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Value & Grade? On This 1894 Repunched Date?

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 Posted 04/07/2015  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I'm trying to get my hands on this coin for relatively cheap....so far so good.


In other words, you're withholding vital value information from the seller?
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 Posted 04/07/2015  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
XF details/corroded.

See that mark on the obverse?
I metal detect and sometimes, your digging tool hits what your digging.
That's why you always make a plug around center :-)
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 Posted 04/08/2015  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
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 Posted 04/08/2015  01:52 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I'm not sure. I don't collect IHC varieties unless it's the 1888/7 :-)
I'll only give you the grade estimate.
Again, check past auction results for approx. value.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's available into high grades. Heritage has record of 29 of them up to MS65. As a "righteous" coin, probably in the $500 range; as a Details coin rather less than that. The scratch is pretty prominent, and will hurt. This is a fabulous variety but they're out there.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It would be very hard to guesstimate the value of this one, with the rather grievous deep scratch arcoss the head.
That is probably why the owner is letting it go.

I have bought damaged but otherwise very valuable coins in the past for cheap, but I was never satisfied with them.

Some soul searching here, before you submit your bid.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
XF Details. PCGS Price Guide says $375 for a problem free example, and the price guide is usually high. I can't see it selling for over $100. I would even have a tough time bidding $50. But that's just me.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I never quote a price I have not found support for in real world sales. I don't look at "price guides."
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So if I can get it for 77, good deal?
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The closest clear reference I got to it - sometimes you have to look at the misses to see where the battleship actually is - was an AU Details coin that went for just under $900 18 months ago. They cheapen quickly into lower grades (a VF30 went for $300 last year), but yours has good technical detail. So I dropped that $900 by almost half for one grade level drop, call it $500, and then warned about the seriousness of the scratch, which should (pessimistically) drop that by half.

I should admit that much of this is speculation. There aren't enough of these to form any sort of pricing pattern, but that's also encouraging in that it makes bidding wars likely in an auction. Using Heritage as an example, they have 704 1891's in their archive, but only 29 of these.

For my personal money? I'd throw $77 at that ten times out of ten and walk away chuckling.
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So in the range of $200-300?
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I dunno. Haven't found a sale of one in that grade range. These things are rare. All the usual rules are out the door. And they're available in Gem grades, so the deep pockets can find nice ones.

Me, I'd pay $77 for it to flip. I know I could write an auction which would generate a profit.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Good points Dave. Yes, I would agree $77 would be reasonable to try and flip. But with having to get it slabbed and any auction fees, I think the profit ceiling might not be that high. If this coin is in an auction right now, the reason it might be cheap might just be because people don't value it that high. Problem coins are big risks and I'm saying that from experience.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Agreed on all counts, Mike. I'd be selling it raw - the IHC types who would want this coin would see immediately it's both real and a Details coin anyway - and I'd be deliriously happy to double my money.
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Selling raw would be the way to go on this one. This is one of those coins you want to study not through plastic :-)
Oh, and I like the flip thing as always.
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