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1983 LMC Long Die Crack?

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 Posted 04/13/2015  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
Yeah, stinkin lincoln
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 Posted 04/13/2015  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Enough with the potty humor. This used to be a place where adults conversed.
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I'm sorry SsDd, I just had too.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
Might this be a linear plating bubble?
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 Posted 04/14/2015  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eagle_eye_18 to your friends list
Would this be a case of Feeder Finger Damage? I think it's too straight and long to be a gas bubble.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
What Pete said.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Pete2226 has the correct term. "linear plating bubble." But the term "gas bubble" is used on Mike Diamond's site:
http://www.error-ref.com/gas-bubbles/
But note on his examples they are rounded in shape. (like a bubble)
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Would this be a case of Feeder Finger Damage? I think it's too straight and long to be a gas bubble.


Feeder Finger Damage ought to look more like a "polished" area on the coin, because that's what feeder fingers do. They're flat, like a feeler gauge, and rub the die rather than gouge it in most cases.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
It doen't seem to fit any of the categories. The "chip" looking part is solid, it's not going to pop or anything. Could it be a series of linear plating bubbles with a coincidental chip? It goes nearly rim to rim, and seems to branch off at each end. It's odd.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
A search of this forum for the term "linear plating bubble" will clear up any doubts. This is not exactly the first one we've seen.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
Thanks, it is my first linear plating bubble. That search option is pretty neat. I also learned it can go over features, where a crack or gouge doesn't because they don't penetrate the die that deeply.
I am going to assume if it wasn't in a "line", it would merely be a plating bubble.
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 Posted 04/14/2015  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Underneath the copper, the zinc sheet stock is likely to be striated from being rolled out. When you consider that the copper cladding amounts to 2.5% of the total weight - kinda high for a thin layer - you can see they planned on the copper helping to smooth that out. It's easy to imagine a bubble following a striation, as you can see on this coin.
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Yes I can see that easily indeed. It's actually an air bubble isn't it? I know air is gaseous.
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 Posted 04/15/2015  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's like this: Zinc is a popular material under the correct installation circumstances for architectural cladding, roofing, ornaments and stuff. Here's a quote from a major producer of those materials (bold mine):


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There are no issues with zinc in combination with metals other than copper and mild steel. When zinc contacts copper in the presence of an electrolyte (such as water) a galvanic reaction will lead to corrosion of the zinc and subsequent failure of the roof or wall cladding. Run-off from a copper surface to a zinc surface must be avoided under all circumstances.


We're building our coins from that combination. And people wonder why I am constantly disparaging Zlincolns? Collect them if you want, but they won't last to pass on to your heirs unless you seal them air tight. One nick in the coating, exposing the zinc, and that coin is done.
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