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New Member
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sorry if you were offended by the statement. there was not intension of offending, if anything I do appreciate your input.
I was making a general statement, not specifically intended to ask someone who had some definitive answers and possible direction.
Again, thank you for your help
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the actual weight is 5.5 grams. I weighed a penny of the same period which was thinner in cross section and slightly smaller and it weighed 6.0 grams.  That seems odd. Shouldn't a silver coin be heavier than a copper one of the same size? Even more so if the copper coin is slightly smaller? |
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Canada
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mr. Nickel That is correct, silver is heavier than copper of equal volume.  Lead is heavier than copper. This coin gets more puzzling every time I look in to it |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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A penny of the same period should weigh about 15 grams.
The halfpenny in copper should weigh about 7.5 grams.
There is something seriously amiss with both your penny and halfpenny.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Faked for collectors market?
When weight, size, color, material are off, what does that leave? Is this normally a valuable coin, a good incentive to make fakes.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Low grade.
Scrap bullion value.
doug
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Canada
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It's too light to be silver or lead. With the weight I'd say pot metal and probably meant to be a fake. At the time, a halfpenny would buy a bit. It still looks plated to me anyway, regardles the base metal. You have an oddity but I suspect no numismatic value.
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Valued Member
Canada
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The proof of this token is made of copper,this one
my guess would be a home job
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Valued Member
Canada
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Why not just get a half penny of the same type that's copper and weigh that?
I agree with having it XRF'd.
Otherwise, it's all speculation. I'm not sure how you're expecting a definitive answer from a low res photo of one side of the coin.
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The reverse for some reason did not come out, just blank, will try and take another picture.
However, if all of the coins were copper and this one is silver ( in colour, not plated ) what use or value would there be to make a fake coin. It would be like making a copper silver dollar. The difference would be apparent and be detected. Would a grading company be able to shed light on this coin.
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Canada
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Based on what has been written here, you will likely be wasting your money if you send it to a grading company. I am not sure which CCF members are the token experts, but if any of them have commented, that is likely as good as the response from the grading company. Alternatively you could try the library or purchase some of the token books for a bit of published help. If you can find some solid supporting information, then maybe send to a grading company.
If you recently purchased this, it might be worthwhile to contact the seller and share some of the concerns mentioned here, you may be able to work something out or escalate through PP/cc.
A picture of the other side would really help.
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The reverse for some reason did not come out, Just to clarify for you, the image you posted, that we can see, is the reverse. The obverse, St George slaying the dragon, is the side we can't see. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Why do people counterfeit coins ,don't know.China is counterfeiting
these in copper. I haven't seen this listed in any catalogs in silver.
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Canada
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I think this is one of my old tokens. And if that's the case, it's a fantasy token, probably in zinc or pewter, at least according with Specific Gravity (7.26g/cm3), and made with a homemade mold. Sorry for the disappointment.  Edited by ainsivalavie
09/14/2015 05:31 am
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