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Better pictures... Understatement of the day. Nice pics the second time around. I think that I see halos around the devices, but that could be just toning. Where's SsDd when you need him? |
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Yea I'd have to disagree with the circulated comment, as all the O Morgans have literally non existent eagle breast...the fact this one shows feathers at all in the Centre shows a quality strike..
I'm a little disappointed about the cleaned comment,as it does appear to have some hair lining. Is it possible these are contact marks? I know the O - Morgans are bag coins, and definitely would have been mishandled. I can't say I agree with a "cleaning", but we'll have too see what other think.
I'm hoping for at least an MS63-64 coin, hoping the strike quality would outweigh the marking...any thoughts?
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Also keep in mind I heavily muted the luster to show more imperfections.
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AU55...this coin has circulated..1880-O Morgans are usually well struck. Most 1880-O Morgans were circulated after minting and then quickly withdrawn from circulation. They were then resealed in Mint bags and kept in banks until the 1960's-1970's.
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I see AU details as well.
I hope it was not cleaned but I believe that it could have been.
Of course in hand it could be MS and I wish you the best of luck.
If ms I still wouldn't see it go above ms62.
Jmho
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Just because this coin has seen circulation doesn't mean it can't be ms. I think MS60.
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I hope I'm wrong about the cleaning and I could be. 1893s is correct about the 88o's but it still has a shot at 62 but probably au58 I think if not a details. I just don't see higher. [Where's SsDd when you need him?] He's CclarkKkent right now  Edited by Cascade
05/09/2015 10:18 pm
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I see AU details as well.
I hope it was not cleaned but I believe that it could have been. I don't believe this coin has been cleaned, the hairlines present are very common on upper grade AU coins (AU-55/AU-58). They are just from light circulation. |
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Ouch. That's alright, I'm still doing o.k at that grade based on the price I paid. I was thinking a much higher quality strike, and couldn't detect wear myself.
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AU55 to 58. For some weird reason there are a lot of high end AU 1879-O and 1880-O Morgan dollars out in Coinland. It's almost as if they were released for a few days and then suddenly pulled back in by the Treasury. You also see a lot of 83-S and 84-S dollars like that, too. |
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Nice Morgan, she's definitely got a great strike for a New Orleans minted coin... Unfortunately, she was even crisper before she circulated, which she absolutely has. As noted this was actually a good year for New Orleans so the nice strike isn't too surprising. The wear on the high spots is a dead giveaway, the Eagles breast, wings, as well as the high points on the obverse, as well as the halos/scuffs. Id put her at AU55, maybe 58 even.
I don't think it's been cleaned at all... Ok, well... t's probably been dipped at somepoint like the majority of older coins... But not harshly cleaned etc. The halos and "scuffs" in the fields are a tell tale sign of light circulation for Morgan's, not quite the same look as bag marks nor the same as a cleaning. It's definitely got a great strike compared to many other year "O""'s, but unfortionitely a good strike won't bump it up into a MS grades, if it was, say a MS63 but oh so close to a 64, and had an exceptional strike and dripping luster (&/or nice toning etc), they may bump it up to the 64 grade, that's not uncommon at all.
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The number of marks on the coin - and their look - have to convince the grader that the coin has circulated if nothing else does.
Here's why this New Orleans issue gets called "circulated" instead of "weak strike:"
Start with the talons. They're showing roundness and detail, and the moment the breast starts losing detail due to strike these start flattening as well. Then move to the legs - they show wear, and the breast is almost gone due to flat strike before the legs start showing flatness. OK, the bottom left large leaf on the wreath. It's sharply-struck, and although this is one of the later spots where a weak strike shows it tend to support the idea that the coin has circulated.
1880 was a good year for New Orleans strikes. They tend to be pretty strong. I'm calling this one AU55 not for wear but for the marks.
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