1984 D Lincoln

This disucssion should remind everyone that credentials mean nothing in a debate and should never even be brought up to bolster one's arguments. Your years in the hobby, your profession, the number of coins you've looked at, the number of visits you've made to the mint, your advanced degrees, your publications -- none of this is relevant. All that matters is the quality of the data you present and the logical consistency of the argument that ties that data together. This is how it works in science and the law. And that's how it should work in numismatics.

Let me give you an example that has nothing to do with weak strikes. I had a long-time press operator argue with me that there was no such thing as a Type I stutter strike because he had never seen one in his upteen years operating a private coining press. I sent him a picture of one -- a 1999-P nickel -- and that still didn't convince him. Then I sent him a barrage of photos of a several other examples struck by the same press and he finally conceded he was wrong. Evidence will always trump experience.

I'll grant you that experience helps. But I've seen 40 year veterans (dealers, collectors) who make frequent rookie mistakes and I've seen newbies with 6 months under their belt who are really sharp.

There are plenty of "experts" out there whose knowledge ossified some time in the 1980s and who are reluctant to acknowledge the existence of anything new.

I dont collect coins these ones I posted are the ones that caught my eye lol

You could throw it on ebay. There are a few that sell for a buck or two. I usually throw them in a box just because they are different.

Cool thanks to you all. I do have many more I get in change that I have no idea what they are I just put them in a coin bank and thats it. thanks again

I'm not talking about trying to deceive anyone. Tell it like it is, some of the newer collectors buy this sort of thing. I have a small collection of them myself, but I have never bought one. I just keep the ones I find with missing letters or digits. The sellers who try to deceive people and say a coin is rare or unique when it's not, deserve negative feedback.

cool thanks