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Bedrock of the Community
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Die caps usually affect one side of the coin. Also the devices are distorted was a struck through die cap. It is a Struck Through Grease. A nice one to. |
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The person that I got it from said it was a struck through die cap, but it was obvious to me that wasn't the case. I did wonder about a weak strike or filled die. I can see the planchet striations that Ken mentioned and it appears to be evenly struck. Both sides are equally weak or filled, which ever is the case. A filled die error is pretty much the same thing as a grease strike. "Filled die" is sometimes preferred for those times when there's pinpoint erasure of individual design elements or a few adjacent design elements. As we've seen, the presence of planchet striations is useless for distinguishing between weak strikes and grease strikes in zinc cents. Error coin writer and researcher.
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This disucssion should remind everyone that credentials mean nothing in a debate and should never even be brought up to bolster one's arguments. Your years in the hobby, your profession, the number of coins you've looked at, the number of visits you've made to the mint, your advanced degrees, your publications -- none of this is relevant. All that matters is the quality of the data you present and the logical consistency of the argument that ties that data together. This is how it works in science and the law. And that's how it should work in numismatics.
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I would have to disagree, experience does count for something and it is hard to beat. I do wonder if there is some misunderstanding in this thread.
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Let me give you an example that has nothing to do with weak strikes. I had a long-time press operator argue with me that there was no such thing as a Type I stutter strike because he had never seen one in his upteen years operating a private coining press. I sent him a picture of one -- a 1999-P nickel -- and that still didn't convince him. Then I sent him a barrage of photos of a several other examples struck by the same press and he finally conceded he was wrong. Evidence will always trump experience.
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That sounds to me like someone who believes they know all there is to know. Once a person starts thinking that way, they don't learn anything new. I'm not taking sides in this debate, but I do know that experience will sometimes see what others may miss, things aren't always what they appear to be on the surface.
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I'll grant you that experience helps. But I've seen 40 year veterans (dealers, collectors) who make frequent rookie mistakes and I've seen newbies with 6 months under their belt who are really sharp.
There are plenty of "experts" out there whose knowledge ossified some time in the 1980s and who are reluctant to acknowledge the existence of anything new.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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So do I throw it out into circulation? Keep it? what is it worth if yu might know let me know would you thanks.
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I dont collect coins these ones I posted are the ones that caught my eye lol
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Its fate is entirely up to you. I can tell you that the coin has no market value. The amount of design loss is too trivial.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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05/27/2015 07:59 am
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You could throw it on ebay. There are a few that sell for a buck or two. I usually throw them in a box just because they are different. |
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I agree with proof of research is key to all theory or logic of what is being shown, but experience is almost as good as having proof for research and therefor have more human errors as forgetting or confusion, it will be answered quickly from an expert but that doesn't make them 100% correct. the experts and experience one still know what they are talking about.
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Cool thanks to you all. I do have many more I get in change that I have no idea what they are I just put them in a coin bank and thats it. thanks again
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Putting these coins on ebay is a great way to get a negative feedback. |
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