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1885-O Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 05/28/2015  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kakaratt77 to your friends list
Why not Indian? Jeff
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 Posted 05/28/2015  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Mushy looking, reverse rim, date, color and tone matches many of the Chinese counterfeits I have seen. Have you weighed the coin or done a magnet test?
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 Posted 05/28/2015  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kakaratt77 to your friends list
Correct Indian, it's a fake, just wanted to see if anyone would try to grade it, haha. Thanks. Jeff
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 Posted 05/28/2015  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kakaratt77 to your friends list
Nice eyeballs Indian! :P
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 Posted 05/28/2015  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Jeff, you let the cat out of the bag too soon, it would have been interesting to see how many people would agree.
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haha.......Jeff
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 Posted 05/28/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I was on my way to VAMworld until I read further. The mint mark threw an immediate flag for me.
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 Posted 05/28/2015  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I suppose I can see both views; one part of me asks "why counterfeit a common-date Morgan?" while the other says "because if you counterfeit CC dollars & 1893's they're more likely to be very closely scrutinized."

The mint mark and date drew my attention on first glance, and the funky reverse rim.

It looks toned similar to the fake Trade dollars that infest ebay 24/7.

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 Posted 05/29/2015  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Yeah, the O caught my eye too.
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 Posted 05/29/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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The mint mark threw an immediate flag for me.


That, and the date. The 5 is an afterthought; the original hub/die for this coin had three date digits and the fourth was added (poorly) later. This is a coin which should not pass a cursory inspection, for those of you who are just learning Morgans.
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 Posted 05/29/2015  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Right away it was pretty obvious a fake, I'm talking the first second of seeing it, literally... SD is correct as this coin is a good lipmus test for those just broaching morgans. Just enough to confuse the novice but an immediate scream to the initiated!
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Just wanted to see if anyone would grade (newbies to Morgans), guess I did let it out too early LOL, at the same time that MM definitely gives it away and the rims. Thanks all. Jeff
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 Posted 05/29/2015  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Jeff,

I looked at this coin yesterday when there were no posts. I did not know if you were a seller or a buyer, so I never posted. My comments would have been as follows: The coin does not look natural. It looks as it been cleaned and the dirt added to cover the cleaning. If I was a buyer, I would not buy this coin.

I saw the high O mint and checked VAM World and there is a high O mint VAM for the 1885 O, so I never picked up that the coin was fake. I am please that I knew something was wrong, but a little disappointed that I did not know the coin was counterfeit.
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 Posted 05/29/2015  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kakaratt77 to your friends list
Everyone has something to learn at times Slider23, no worries..Jeff
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 Posted 05/29/2015  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Just wait until you start getting into vams. It's like having to relearn morgans all over again. Like graduating high school and entering college. Which is part of the VAM appeal
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