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The Telemarketers Are Lying Tonite

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 Posted 06/12/2015  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Gyrene, you may be technically correct, but as far as I am concerned they are liars.
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 Posted 06/12/2015  06:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
A $20 gold eagle is indeed "solid gold" as opposed to "hollow", or "electroplated". But apart from that, "solid gold" does not have a legal definition - so they're free to use it.

Telemarketers are usually very good at being deceptive in perfectly legal ways.
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 Posted 06/12/2015  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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A $20 gold eagle is indeed "solid gold" as opposed to "hollow", or "electroplated". But apart from that, "solid gold" does not have a legal definition - so they're free to use it.

Now that is interesting. I never thought of the fact that Solid Gold really doesn't mean much. True it could be Solid 50%, 25% or even 10% Solid Gold. Could just as well be 100%. Just one of those things people just don't realize.
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 Posted 06/13/2015  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KevinH to your friends list
Just for the record, what is the gold karat content of a 90% gold item? I know that .999 is 24 karat, right?

And yes, I am aware that karat is a jewelry term, while be collectors use the simpler percentage measure.
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 Posted 06/13/2015  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KevinH to your friends list
Well, I googled to answer my own question: http://www.had2know.com/lifestyle/c...jewelry.html

For the record, a 92.5% gold content by mass is 22 karat.
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 Posted 06/13/2015  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list

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but as far as I am concerned they are liars.
I did not say they were not liars just that they are pros at skirting the truth enough to get the uninformed to buy their overpriced coins. In my opinion all telemarketers are unethical scum regardless of how well dressed the men are or how pretty the women are and which channel they are selling their wares.
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 Posted 06/15/2015  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
they are also 'lieing'
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 Posted 06/15/2015  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
22K is .9166, not 92.5 as stated above. Karat is determined as parts per 24. .925 would be 22.2K, but few people use decimals for karats, better to just say .925 fine. At most one could say that .925 is at LEAST 22K.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
So 10K gold is only about 40% gold?

I think I'm going to start calling my 40% Kennedy halves and Ike dollars "Solid 10K silver".




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 Posted 06/24/2015  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
10k is 41.7% gold... on European jewelry that's how they stamp gold...

10k= 417 or 41.7%
14k= 585 or 58.5%
18k= 750 or 75% gold
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 Posted 06/24/2015  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
Well I did say "About" 40%. Should I call my 40% silver 9.6 Karat instead?
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 Posted 06/24/2015  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I think Cascade was just providing more information. I do not think he meant to offend.
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None was taken! My brand of sarcasm sometimes translates poorly to written text.

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 Posted 06/24/2015  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
The "karat" measuring system only applies to gold, not silver, platinum or any other precious metal. The unit derives from the siliqua, an old Roman unit of weight (about 0.19 grams). "Siliqua" is the Latin name for the carob tree, specifically the seeds of the carob tree which were found to be fairly consistent in weight. The English word carat (sometimes spelled "karat" to distinguish it from the "carat" we still use as a unit of weight for gemstones) derives from "carob".

The base-24 system of purity for gold derived from the coinage reform of Roman emperor Constantine, which saw a new gold coin, the solidus, weighing 24 siliquae. As the Roman Empire devolved into the Byzantine empire and the gold solidus eventually became smaller and more dilute, it contained fewer and fewer siliquae of gold and merchants expressed this new gold fineness by the number of siliquae in the solidus: 21, 14 or whatever.
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 Posted 06/25/2015  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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None was taken! My brand of sarcasm sometimes translates poorly to written text.
I think I should have known better by now!
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