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1930 Penny

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 Posted 07/14/2015  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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I don't know if you would call it tampered with trout as it is actually specifically made to be opened , and very easy to , small pocket knife or thin blade insert twist it unclips. I actually like the idea but I also understand what your saying as well.

UNBLOODYBEIVEABLE
A specially designed slab that allows a coin to be removed and replaced at will
NO wonder this mob is NOT held in high regard by serious collectors in Aus
Edited by trout1105
07/14/2015 06:20 am
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 Posted 07/14/2015  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list
There was a 1937 Crown on ebay Oz. last week,graded as 1938 by APCGS,and the owner was selling as an error hoping to get a premium.Not sure what happened to it.
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 Posted 07/14/2015  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list
Now that's a bit strange Basil. I would not call a typo/print error on a slab a error coin, I wounder if its been removed and the 37 put in its place.

This is exactly what Trout was on about coin swapping.

After all a 38 Crown is worth a heck of a lot more than a 37 crown. Makes one wounder. Do you have the ebay number or anything I would love to take a look and check it out on there website to see if it is an actual mistake. If it is a mistake its a real dumb one.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
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 Posted 07/15/2015  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
Isn't it wonder full how the seller was able to take those images outside the slab
Some poor Sap has paid $170 for a pretty average 1937 Crown.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list
Hehehe you really love these easy to open slabs trout don't you. (not)

I just checked there website and its listed as a 37 crown and was graded as a 37 crown.

Maybe this is the first case of tampering you were on about Trout. Not the coin but an easy to reprint label.

Yes Trout a average 1937 coin for way to much. It made AU50 which for 170 clams isn't a good deal in my book . I have seen some pretty nice 37 crowns go for much less.

But Trout I as an Honest person love the ability to open it , but I do understand your concerns and this highlighted it.

Coin swapping coin handling future tarnish etc from incorrect handling and this the possibility to actually change the print and the out come.

Im not saying the guy did, it may well be a APCGS print error. But your concerns are definitely highlighted buy this event.


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 Posted 07/15/2015  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list
Hi Eric

If what you are saying is correct, and I hope it is, then I can't explain some of the slabs I've seen.

Prime example was a 1920 1/2 penny, 6 pearls, hint of 7. was graded as MS62. Had clear wear and was said to be uncirculated.

I have no idea how that came to be. (And no it was not an APCGS slab.)
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07/15/2015 10:54 pm
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 Posted 07/16/2015  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eric to your friends list
Hi Peter S Thomas,

PCGS has graded 30 million coins. It's very easy to pick out the odd coin and use it to suggest that PCGS doesn't know what they're doing. But the facts are that thousands of collectors all over the world prefer and use PCGS for their valuable coins. There's no reason their opinions are any less valid than yours.

Eric
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 Posted 07/16/2015  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list
Eric Peter never said it was an PCGS slab. ?. All he said was it wasn't a APCGS slab. It could be any number of companies. NNG NCG are just a couple of others.

Assumptions are the mother of all F ups.
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 Posted 07/17/2015  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eric to your friends list
sweetap, my comment stands on its own regardless of the service Peter had in mind.
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 Posted 07/17/2015  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list

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Prime example was a 1920 1/2 penny, 6 pearls, hint of 7. was graded as MS62. Had clear wear and was said to be uncirculated.


1920 half pennies are often not fully struck up. I've seen examples only struck up with 6 pearls. You'd need to post photos of the coin in question to verify this.
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 Posted 07/17/2015  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list
E.g.

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 Posted 07/17/2015  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
@ sweetap
HEHEHE
Don't mess with the Eigner boys , They actually KNOW their stuff
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 Posted 07/17/2015  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Here are some more:

be NICE Walter, this site is aimed at the Education of collectors.
You have made your point in regard to the weak strike issue on the 1920 1/2d's

Sorry for the edit I put the wrong date up there, Gawd
Edited by trout1105
07/17/2015 08:45 am
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