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I would not even consider it. And for $165? No way!
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They are asking a little more than 2X retail. I couldn't look at this coin, as nice as it is, and not think I overpaid if I bought it. I'd stretch to $100 if the toning is super beautiful in hand. But even that is a $20+ stretch.
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Most I'd go is $100 like moxking said I am willing to pay a slight premium for gorgeous toned coins but not over 2x retail
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I'm trying to get him down to $90. I can't justify even $100 for it. I can say, the toning is amazing and, in hand, the coin is beautiful. If I can't get it down that low then it's time to let it go..
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That is one out(expletive deleted)standing coin. Beyond gorgeous. I would not personally go 3x retail for it (nearly), but, you know, maybe I would. I'd be surprised if you get much wiggle room from the seller. If he knows the market for toners, he knows he'll get the price the moment the right person sees the coin.
Further, I believe the grade is heavily factoring the weak strike. Although little marks are to be seen, there is very little chatter which actually forms a visible distraction. In larger images I could see the chance of a case for MS64.
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Has anyone thought this could be AT. I'm up in the air with this one . Even album toning wouldn't be this extreme. If it was genuine toning, Wouldn't pay more than $70.
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Agree, I think it's fabulous. I'd like to have it around just to look at once in awhile. Personally, I'd pay the hundred for it.  |
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I think this coin is undergraded. I'd say at least MS-64 tops on this coin, maybe even MS-65. If any of you experienced collectors find anything that would prevent it from getting a sixty-four or sixty-five please tell me.
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PS - Well, PCGS doesn't seem to think it's AT.
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I think this coin is undergraded. I'd say at least MS-64 tops on this coin, maybe even MS-65. Do you think this would make a 65? Or is it just the color that has you excited. What keeps it at a 63 to me Obverse: Small ticks inbetween the sun rays. A number of small ticks along the line of missing detail starting just below where her hand should be down to her knee. Overall strike weakness and lack of defined detail in the dress lines Reverse: this is its better side. The main problem is its weakness in all the feathers and along the branch. I think that any grade above 63 is a serious case of grade-flation. In my opinion this is a poorly struck coin, even for this series, and the coin does not display as a 65. What is it that you think makes this a 65? Edited to fix my typoing.  Edited by Tryna
08/24/2015 5:23 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Too dark to be AT. Not a very good strike, but gorgeous toning. I think 63 is the correct grade given the quantity of bag marks and nicks visible on the obverse portrait. Not many people are going to pay $100 over FMV for a toner, no matter how pretty it is, unless the underlying coin is in and of itself of sufficiently high quality to merit the investment. I see too many people on ebay thinking that toning like this magically doubles or triples the value of the coin, when in reality it alienates part of the market (the "must be blast white" crowd) and makes it an even harder sell. (Unless you're going for a complete set of rainbow-toned Walkers, how many examples do you need?) Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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There isn't the big market for toned Walkers that there is for Morgan dollars. Nevertheless, rainbow Walkers are seldom seen so I think this one might find a buyer at the asking price. The PCGS certification will reassure buyers that the toning is officially not artificial. |
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The dirty little secret about toning is it's only artificial if you say it is. This is plainly the look which is described as "authentic album toning" although I freely admit it could be duplicated in a way a prudent numismatist would call "artificial."
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I'd put a $100 on the table and walk away if it wasn't picked up. Don't miss this for $10. This kind of toning isn't seen on Walkers too often.
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I love the toning but, the very weak strike prevents me from buying it at any price. The Walking Liberty half collection 1933-S - 1947-D set I am assembling all have full heads, hands, and flag lines oh the left leg on the obverse and full feather detail on the eagle's chest and legs on the reverse. They grade MS64-65 with nearly all of them having various amounts of toning. I do not care for blast white that much. |
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Posted 08/24/2015 2:16 pm
