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Valued Member
Canada
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Nice find. Hard to see the date, maybe 1805. All I ever found in my yard with the MD was bottle tops and old nails.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1788 Posts |
I'm pretty sure this should be a gold coin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1788 Posts |
Notice this Bust was on gold coins, not silver.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 to the Community The design imitates that of an early Turban Head gold coin however it isn't gold. I'd say this is most likely a game counter. The main reason being that all gold coins produced prior to 1834 were worth more than face value and were exported by brokers.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by batboy 08/31/2015 08:34 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
650 Posts |
Think I'm going to change my guess to capped bust gold half eagle. 
Edited by batboy 08/30/2015 6:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4932 Posts |
I've seen several of these over the course of several years. I believe it's period; making it an early contemporary counterfeit. Once plated with gold, and often times used to fool people into thinking it's real.
Back then, it was obviously a lot easier to get away with things like this.
Find a contemporary counterfeit expert, and he/she will tell you more about it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4409 Posts |
It is NOT a contemporary counterfeit. It is a game counter like I said previously. Here's a website showing one http://www.wetreasures.com/treasure...r/200812.htmA member constanius said the following 4 posts down from the link at the end of the quote: Quote: In 1801 Henry Kettle was still making Imitation Spade Guineas but his last issue of them was dated 1802, he was also producing the medals for the Treaty of Amiens the last of which is the one pictured below, dated 1802 but he also found time to issue in 1801, 1803 & 1805 Imitation U.S. Gold Coins http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/in...27159.0.html
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Very interesting, 
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Moderator
 United States
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It's a plated copy of what batboy posted. I've seen these on ebay. Contemporary I believe.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5828 Posts |
Yep, it's a fake but still WOW what if it had been real?! THAT would have been cool! Keep searching and you'll find one... Someone has to!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2490 Posts |
This: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181836054...RK:MEBIDX:ITis what Constanius referred to. If you look closely at the obverse, you will see Kettle's mark just to the right and below the bust. They are quite sought after, so if yours has the mark you are very lucky
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome find! If that were a real $5 gold coin from the era I would be going  x1000!
Edited by CalzoneManiac 08/30/2015 10:41 pm
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Valued Member
United States
288 Posts |
It is a KETTEL gambling token, and I have sold two in the past, a VG one for $57 and an XF one for $142. It was used in the same way casino chips are today and were bronze with gold plating. They are indeed very popular and you have a wonderful find!
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