1999 Toonie...die Rotation? Counterfeit?

Can't believe some of the questions here.

I agree an in hand inspection of these coins is the best way to see whats going on here.

Kafka's- the ring has been re-plated (or something to that effect) and the core popped back in.
Northsidety's- either the core was rotated between pics or there is something very wrong with it..fake core.

Seriously? Postage stamps are not currency... one is protected by the Currency Act, and our decimal coinage has never been debased (so it is still, and always, valid)..

This is not a contemporary counterfeit we are talking about...

But, ignorance is bliss... I am sure your line of defence will work in any court of law, so go ahead and try... if ebay does not yank it down in a day or two I know a few fellows at the RCMP Currency Counterfeit division that might be very interested in your auction...

I am honestly shaking my head in disbelief!

Thank you everyone for the info thus far! I have a few more pictures of my coin, I did NOT rotate the center between pictures. I think it's a fake but I'm no expert. Let me know if anyone can figure this out.(Picture taken with phone)

Thanks

Ty

I agree. The Queen's hair is different, the shape of the front of her neckline is different; I would think sending it to either of those two experts would be the best bet and solve the mystery once and for all.

Fixguy, I noticed quiet a few counterfeit coins in the 2016 Charlton! and some have even more value then the original. Obviously those coins are much older and from other countries but there is still a market for some counterfeits. So who knows, maybe this toonie could be included one day as collector piece?

I am a collector. I don't collect counterfeit. I was at a auction. some time ago I was surprised to see what some collectors. was willing to pay for 2 counterfeit coins. right now in Canada where the big problems is at these estate auctions. there is coins being sold as the real coins later to be discovered as counterfeit. these estate auction house are starting to realize. that they are going to be looking at getting coins tested to verify as authentic. there is links in google explaining this and the issues. they see the only way it can be fixed is to have all coins checked. if you search you can also find that there are auctions that sell these counterfeit coins. they sell at a premium. here is a statement from and investigator that has done a study with the American numismatic association Unlike many of the other fakes on this page, this one is thought to have originated within the U.S., although the possibility exists that it originated in Lebanon, which like China and Bulgaria are centers of coin forgery. Michael Fahey says he has seen more than 100 specimens of this type submitted to ANACS for grading. this is the investigators words

One specimen of this type recently sold on ebay, as a counterfeit, for more than $400. The seller had first put it up for auction as an authentic coin, then cancelled the auction and put it up as a "replica." I've also seen this counterfeit type offered for sale as a counterfeit at a major national coin show for $1,000. Most recently I saw it offered for sale as an authentic coin at a major national coin show for $4,300, graded EF-45 but not in the slab of a legitimate grading service.

right know I believe I have a toonie it is very thin the colour of the metal is all wrong. but other wise all most perfect. I will try to find out if this is a counterfeit. if it is I will turn it over to the RCMP. I have no interest in have one of these coins in my collection. but these coins are selling. one of the members said it here earlier on this thread. I believe this could do more harm than good. I use to collect postage stamps. when they started to auction counterfeits for more than the original. I could not believe that said that enough for me. what I believe this is going to do to coin collecting is make it very hard to know what is real and what is not my thoughts.

if you have a toonie or loonie. you might think its fake. there is and easy test. we use to use the same test for bad insulators. its called a ping test. all you have to do is drop the real toonie or loonie. listen to the sound it makes. then drop a counterfeit. the counterfeit wont ring it will make a thud. but a really one will ring. if you see some one dropping a toonie or a loonie in a vending machine. say the machine does not except the coin 9 times out of ten it is counterfeit. these vending machine sense the metal ping. if the coin don't ping the machine does not except it. so if you are at a car wash or any vending machine. you can find out for sure. plus the drop test works to. there is also a video on you tube describing this