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Pillar of the Community
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Hmmm...a "clad in 150mg of .999 silver" silver eagle?
So maybe it had issues...BUT...it was under tons of burning building so that might ADD to the look...why clad a silver coin?
Zero appeal on that one
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 fox, I just caught that  Celtic, these coins were returned to their owners who were holding them in the vaults. I see your point but I look at it like these coins were survivors. They had history thrust upon them and it would have been a shame to not have them properly identified as such. They are now a keepsake in remembrance of the worst attack this country ever faced. And how when.we get attacked we attack back, we never forget and we never surrender. |
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I understand the sentiment, but I would have liked to see the profits go to those who were affected, the survivors or families of the fallen.
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They had history thrust upon them and it would have been a shame to not have them properly identified as such. I don't disagree. But cladding silver in *more* silver and selling them as 9/11 survivors seems like a shameless gimmick to me. Also those vaults were probably full of thousands of such coins and the vaults were likely the most protected part of the building. Those who owned them almost certainly knew the potential value of having these slabbed as 9/11 survivors. I have a very hard time believing that whoever submitted these for grading/certifying did it out of the goodness of their heart, had posterity in mind, or donated any of the profits. I realize that's a lot of unfounded speculation and I could very well be wrong. I am just very pessimistic when it comes to human nature. As jbuck said, any profit on these should have been donated to charities or survivors or their families. Edited by CelticKnot
09/24/2015 11:07 pm
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I would never buy a 9/11 coin from third party. That is just letting someone capitalize on the death of thousands of innocent people. But this was an artifact of that day, a piece of history, so I think its ok, and not like buying a commemorative.
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I agree with all you said celtic, especially about cladding a regular ASE with melted wtc silver aND all other like items. That's just plain profiteering on tragedy! I have to somewhat disagree though with the last part however. What intentions the owners had when they got their coins back is inconsequential as without them doing what they did for whatever reason they did it these pieces of history would have gone back into the mix and "lost" to the world if not properly identified as such. I agree with jbucks donation idea but it's human nature... and capitolism to profit. That said, if I were one of the owners who got my coins back I don't think I could have profited on them. Personally I would have donated all profits to the survivors fund (and probably part or all of my principal too) Edited by Cascade
09/25/2015 10:22 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't have an issue with buying a slabbed ASE recovered from the vaults. That's a piece of history. I do have an issue with cladding ASEs in recovered silver from the towers (I assume silver bars) and slabbing it. If I'm not mistaken, NCM got into legal trouble over a 9/11 coin (not sure if it's this one or another). |
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Pillar of the Community
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This is a historic artifact, not a 3rd party coin capitalizing on the death if innocent people.
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Pillar of the Community
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That's the one. Thanks for posting, Cascade.
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Pillar of the Community
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My opinion of these coins is the same opinion I have about Nazi coins. On one hand, they are associated with a lot of bad stuff, but on the other hand, they have as much history (and one could debate that they have more) in them as any other coin. I don't see a problem with owning them as they are pieces of history. Just imagine what kind of story SSK's coin or Cascade's coin could tell. Who wouldn't want to hear those stories? I know I would be the first one in line to hear them.  SSK, Very nice coin by the way!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Does anyone know the requirements from the tpgs to get the 9-11 survivor label? Like how did they prove to them these actually were recovered from ground zero?
Just wondering. I have considered buying 1 in the past. Its amazing the changes brought to such a large and great country as ours by a few handful of men determined to bring death to thousands in the name of their god. Sometimes with the way we bankrupted ourselves fighting long bloody unwinnable wars just like they wanted I think they beat us.
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Pillar of the Community
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I said on the first post.
You may ask, "well, how do we know this was at ground zero?" We know because after the attack, brink trucks went to get all of the bullion/coins out of the vault underneath the world trade center. All the coins were sent to PCGS, this is one of them.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ssk is correct. The owners were given the option by pcgs to have their holdings sent to them directly and slabbed for posterity then returned to the owner. How much they paid if anything to pcgs for the service I'm not sure. But they were given back to the owners afterward
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Pillar of the Community
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Very good discussion and thank you for sharing.
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