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 Posted 11/07/2015  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
This guy also sells DMPL PCGS graded Morgans. It would be better to get those than the raw ones.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
This is not a normal toned color for a Morgan dollar. devices do look a little flaky. Don't break your rule.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
If it was that fantastic it would be slabbed and would sell for silly money. This coin is "Played with" in my opinion.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
Looks like it might make AU PL in hand.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murty to your friends list
This coin looks like it was AT and the pictures have been somewhat manipulated.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Raw Morgan supposedly of this quality?
Avoid like the plague.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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Looks like it might make AU PL in hand.


Looking at the photos again, the coin appears to be AU AT Details and that would put the value around $50. I noticed there is no pull away on the toning around the date and the stars, so AT is very likely.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
Pictures like that really scare me. Run away!
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 Posted 11/07/2015  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
If this was actually in a high end holder at 65PL or better, imagine what it would be worth.

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 Posted 11/07/2015  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list
These kind of sellers (raw DMPLs) are masters at making the photos look like the coin has the deepest, most reflective mirrors. I suspect either light manipulation or maybe even alterations to the photos. It also looks like they're hiding the details.

I, in my previous years, bought 3 coins of the sort, seller claiming DMPL, photos looked amazing. The results? 1 PL, 1 regular grade, and 1 UNC details cleaned.

I would undo those purchases if I could (it was long ago and I waited a long time to get them graded). I suggest you avoid this and those like it, unless TP graded.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
It is a common Morgan that looks weird from the photo. I am not quite sure I understand the obsession with weirdly toned coins. Some are beautiful, but this is not one of them IMO. You could buy a CC Morgan for some years which you know has value.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
100% pure garbage, a junk artificially toned coin with juiced photos.

Notice that seller is VERY careful not to make any mention of grade, or much else, in the listing.

This seller has been outed before for using heavily doctored photos in listings, usually contrast manipulation.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Terry,

The attraction is DMPL with unusual toning. The seller photos are portraying this coin as a high grade DMPL. If this coin was a MS65 DMPL with red and purple toning in a PCGS problem free slab, the coin would sell for around 5K+ for this common date, but this coin is 100% garbage as noted above.
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 Posted 11/07/2015  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You cannot underestimate the intelligenece of anyone bidding on this POC.
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 Posted 11/08/2015  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
About the only time I have seen dollars that heavily frosted was on the artificially frosted "California Prooflikes" that were common back in the mid 1970's.
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