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Which Of The 1859 Large Cent Varieties Considered "Rare"?

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 Posted 11/12/2015  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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Of course, I would probably list it for something ridiculous like $25,000 but that's just me :)


CV...Thank you for the response..and also for that nice and appreciated bit of humor here..

We need that more often...!!

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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
How about this 5/5 ?
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 Posted 11/13/2015  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
If you post full obv and rev pics,..we could try to ID it for you..

..and then have more info for you about the 5/5..
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 Posted 11/13/2015  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
I'll take pics of the other 5/5; but I found this one today and really like it a lot; haven't gone through the Haxby catalog yet.
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 Posted 11/13/2015  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
What,s really needed is a full picture of the coin obv. and rev. Then the close pictures.
It just make it easier to ID.

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 11/13/2015  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
This is the only obverse marker I found on the initial 5/5 that I posted. Looks like obverse 45a but maybe it's an early 80a. I'll try for full photos soon as I get my scope and computer re-adjusted. Sorry.
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 Posted 11/14/2015  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
Posted full size photos of the 5/5 and other; have to put the "toys" away for a few days -- curious grandchild coming for a visit.
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 Posted 11/14/2015  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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...the 20111 Charlton variety section...


I'm into varieties in general but am still in need for additional Canadian data: paper books and/or on-line resources which are best known for pricing along with color descriptive photos.

Any help here would be appreciated.

thx,
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 Posted 11/14/2015  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
If you are going to colect Victoria Large Cents, copies of the 4 volume set of Rob Turner's books are the place to start to understand it all. Start with the first one, the Provincial large cents. This gives a complete history of how things started for Canada coinage, a complete breakdown of the manufacturing.minting proicess then, and the die hierarchy system on how dies were made and what caused the varieties. Ten, there is a complete die track, with markers for each 1858 Obv & Rev.

You can probably shp the Provincial addendum with the 1859/8's and the die tracking section there until you have the other two .. Dies and diadems for a look at a complete overview of all the Vicky obv types and Revs. It also gives a complete rundown of all the 1891 working dies. Then there is the 1890 & 1892 book that gives all the working dies for 90's & 91. There will be one coming out with the 93's 94's & 98's ... and I hope something by another friend with all of the Obv 1 type dates (76-86).

For Prices go to the Coins and Canada site or look for what you want in the completed and "sold for" ebay auctions. Just set up your search parameters for the dates/types that you want.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Building on Doug's comment, sometimes the rarest are not the sexiest, or most popular. Having done the 1858 die catalog, I can say that some very plain dies produced some rare coins. I suspect the same is true in 1859.

As for the DP4, for years there were two different coins in PCGS DP2 holders at 64 Red. I think they have now been moved to DP4 holders.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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As for the DP4, for years there were two different coins in PCGS DP2 holders at 64 Red. I think they have now been moved to DP4 holders.


Now wouldn't that be grand to have a link to those 2 DP4 cent photos..They are probably an earlier strike and the 9 will show better..

bosox..If you have a photo of yours,..why not post it here..?

You know we always like to see your special and rare toys..
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 Posted 11/26/2015  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
One of the 64 reds is in the Willamette collection. You can see the pics on the PCGS registry. I have not photographed mine. It is 63 brown. Happy Thanksgiving.
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 Posted 11/26/2015  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
The Lantern Collection has the other 64RB DP4...

http://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/all....aspx?s=4668
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 Posted 11/26/2015  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Thanks for that heads up,.. and the added link.

Wow..!!..That Lantern/Belzberg DP4 is out of this world...

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11/27/2015 11:04 am
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 Posted 11/27/2015  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
DEVLEC, I believe 'out of this world' is too tame, I think 'incredibly awesome' would better describe it.
What a beauty!!
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