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Wow...gorgeous 1831 Bust Half....sending To PCGS

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 Posted 11/12/2015  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I've looked at a few hundred of these over the past years and never seen one with full coin iridescent toning in a slab. They tend to tone golden to olives and obsidian blacks, with occasional coppery red tones. When they do go "rainbow", the color toning is almost always peripheral or target-toned. I'm sure fully rainbow-toned examples in slabs do exist but they are probably very scarce and extremely expensive.

There are a few slabbed dimes and Half Dimes with almost full or full rainbow toning, and they reside in the price range of coins from the Simpson toner sets. Very pretty, but paying $3k for a Half Dime is a stretch for me.
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 Posted 11/12/2015  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Toning aside, I think it is in the 40-45 range.
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 Posted 11/12/2015  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
Waste of money to get it slabbed IMHO.
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 Posted 11/12/2015  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
May squeek out XF45. I agree with the color
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 Posted 11/12/2015  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CartwheelCollector to your friends list
Agreed, questionable color. Purple hues give you the blues...
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 Posted 11/13/2015  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
EF-45 details
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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
EF-40 for me.
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 Posted 11/13/2015  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree 45 details (AT).
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 Posted 11/13/2015  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list
not a rare date...EF details grade...save your $$$
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 Posted 11/13/2015  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
yup, EF40 Details, AT. It won't come back in a righteous slab.

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XF details: Questionable color
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 Posted 11/14/2015  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
EF45 questionable color from me too.
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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 Posted 11/14/2015  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
XF. AT.
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XF-40

One might find some interesting thoughts in this 2012 CCF URL for toning in general:

https://goccf.com/t/134214&SearchTerms=toning

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 Posted 11/15/2015  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
The "artificial" in AT does not refer to the nature of the toning itself, but rather to the method by which it is induced.

Natural toning occurs over a matter of years or even decades; artificial toning is induced in a matter of minutes or even seconds. Part of the value of natural toning is an appreciation of the time that the coin had to be stored to acquire that toning.

In addition, artificial toning nearly never manages to replicate the unique patterns seen in naturally-toned coins; much like a chemical dip, AT affects the entire surface of the coin, not just certain areas.

This to me is why AT is a strike on submission - it presents the coin with surfaces that in a condition which could not possibly have occurred naturally over time. If they allowed AT, they might as well allow dipping to remove toning. Either one is an UNNATURAL alteration of existing surfaces.
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