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Disappointed With ANACS Submission Of 1922 No "D" Penny.

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 Posted 11/19/2015  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Your response? Bravo.

Their reply? Ugh.

No love lost here. I have never been a TPG fan. This fiasco only strengthens my position.
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 Posted 11/19/2015  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
You would think they would have offered a refund or something?
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 Posted 11/19/2015  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gymcoachdon to your friends list
I'm not sure a refund is warranted. Based on the reply sent in the email, they have done themselves a great disservice, but have not harmed you in any way. Now, if you submit to another TPG, and they attribute it as a no D, then you could have a case. (This from someone who has no clue whether your coin is a no D or not)
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 Posted 11/19/2015  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I don't know the ins and outs of ANACS personnel, but isn't Paul just a guy who goes to coin shows drumming up business? I met a Paul from ANACS earlier this year at a show in northern CO and I got a sales/marketing vibe without a whole lot of coin expertise. Certainly his response was just digging the customer hole deeper, but I'm not sure that the actual grade is wrong. Everything on the slab is accurate. Who wants to put a no-D after "corroded, cleaned"?
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 Posted 11/19/2015  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
The email explanation alone deserve some kind of vouchers or refund.
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 Posted 11/19/2015  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
You put no d after corroded and cleaned if that's what it is.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
The more I look at this coin, the more I think it's an altered date. Look closely at the second 2. It should curve into the horizontal bottom, but it's a thin straight line. Regardless, from the collector perspective sometimes we all desperately want to think we have something valuable, but from a TPG perspective, are you really going to stake your reputation on this coin? http://www.anacs.com/(A(4s7DWorczAE...kieSupport=1
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 Posted 11/20/2015  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list
ANACS response to a very well thought out email from mistermann is further proof that, at least for me, I would never do business with ANACS. Kudos to you mistermann on the email to ANACS.. Boo to you ANACS for your response. Sheeesh...
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 Posted 11/20/2015  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
I really don't get it ANACS graded it 1922 D details corroded. Therefore they believe it has part of or does have a D correct. What are we disappointed with that the person (VP/ANACS) who responded didn't look into it clearly enough and said something wrong in an email? I'm sure we are all perfect and never accidently said something incorrect. Anyway I'm not sure PCGS or NGC would respond as quickly as ANACS has either. I seem to recall a few threads where these TPG's hadn't responded for days or weeks. The facts are they believe in what they graded it. They didn't screw that part up according to them, just an email response.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list
This is an interesting discussion, so I'll add my .02, which is that the grading was OK (probably a fragment of MM; too corroded to assert otherwise anyway), but, as others have noted, the email exchange was fairly close to catastrophic. I don't know much about how the TPGs operate, but I'm sure they get a lot of messages, a certain number of them challenging or even irate, and I suspect Mr. VP just went into "Dissatisfied customer, send a polite but unbending reply" mode and cranked out a reply that contained an error. Maybe at the end of a long day, some part of his brain said, It doesn't have a D, it must be from Philly. He probably knows the facts, but just maybe he does not know that there are no Philly 1922's, which would be pretty bad because most of us have known that since we were about nine years old. I think they realized how bad it was when their final reply was just Oops, that was wrong. Most anything else would have just dug the hole deeper. One last little thing: OP said in one of the posts a few before this one that you can have a "Plain" if there is fragment of a MM. If you are looking for a Die Pair 2 "No D," that's not the case. Obviously, with the other pairs, there can be a remnant. Pardon me if I missed your point. I assume you have seen this:

http://lincolncentresource.com/1922...rieties.html
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 Posted 11/20/2015  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list

Quote:
In frustration earlier today I cracked the holder open with a pair of wire strippers and freed the penny from it's cocoon of disappointment.


If it makes you feel any better, this is an eloquent and humorous comment.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
Yep it was just something I read in another article, probably misinformation. I appreciate all the responses, it's a fun and interesting discussion.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list
True. I think it's one of the most interesting of the Lincoln anomalies.
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 Posted 11/21/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Totally late to the party. I was almost positive in your original thread that it was a 1922 No D Die #2. Maybe I should have been more careful because of the corrosion present, that there might be a remnant of a D present. I'm sorry ANACS didn't see it that way, but unfortunately when the smoke clears, they are probably correct. Their email fiasco doesn't do much for their credibility, and the talking head you were communicating with certainly didn't help the situation.
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 Posted 11/22/2015  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
It's at least corrided, from wat I can see? It's just my opinion. But I think it's corroded?
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