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1949 50 Cent Hoof..

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 Posted 11/19/2015  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Scavenger to your friends list
My guess would be ms60 the mark from ear to X and other marks.
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 Posted 11/19/2015  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
ms 63
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 Posted 11/20/2015  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
Very nice, I would go with MS64, little hard to tell because of how nice and bright it is, cannot really see any marks.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
MS-63
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 Posted 11/20/2015  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Coin Scavenger....
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My guess would be ms60 the mark from ear to X and other marks.


I will add a few more pics to "maybe" clarify that 60 grade above..I'll try to get close-ups of the negative marks....but I do respect all opinions...

..but if this is a 60 (to you)...I really, really want to see some of your 63,..64..and 65's..here..


..Bill..
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Just to add, I think it's at least MS65.


That's where I was hoping this would end up...Thanks..!!

Maybe a 4 or a 5..still one of my special ones.. I promised myself to never add the old embossed cert grade here on CCF. Although they still had it as a high grade MS anyway..

The weakness in the center reverse is very frosty and without contacts and also well documented for this issue as mentioned above...more pics to follow soon..
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 Posted 11/20/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
When your trying to grade from pictures your going to get a wider gap in grades then what it would be if everyone graded with coin in hand.

I was also hoping someone would step in and give an explanation for the obverse rim.

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 11/20/2015  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Distortion of the plastic flip is my guess.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Here are a few more critical pics in the bright sun..

The obv is now seen better and with a heavy frosting on the bust. Some marks are in the plastic..but the bright reflective ones are on the obverse surface. There is a dull soft fine mark coming across the ear and down into the right field.

There's a coin ding in the lower lip and neck contacts are showing better. ..A few ticks in both fields also..

Nice d/c's showing on both sides.

I'll bring this coin to the varieties forum also to ask about interesting details now showing in the date and letters.

Thanks for any grades added here..

1949-50-Cent-Hoof..

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1949-50-Cent-Hoof..

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1949-50-Cent-Hoof..

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 Posted 11/20/2015  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
62 to 63.
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 Posted 11/20/2015  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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I was also hoping someone would step in and give an explanation for the obverse rim.


Bill,

Maybe it's a slightly off-center strike which leaves a strong raised rim on the left,

..but with the denticles going completely into the collar on the right side of the obverse.

The 50 c experts would certainly have a proper explanation for that rim.
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 Posted 11/21/2015  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list
You can see the same effect to a somewhat lesser degree on quite a few of the 1949 dies.
The rim on the Obverses seems to be narrower than the rim on the Reverses... are the Obverse dies wider?

As DEVLEC speculates then a little bit of die misalignment could cause the it.
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 Posted 11/21/2015  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
DEVLEC.. is that a 2x or 4x HP?

Nice coin... for an embossed ICCS my guess is that they may have graded it a '62
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 Posted 11/21/2015  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
The first pics showed a near gem, but after you adding the new pictures in different lighting, i'd say a 63
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 Posted 11/21/2015  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
I guessed MS-63 also, but I suspect ICCS gave it a 65.
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 Posted 11/22/2015  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Thanks for all of the help here.

There is no 2x HP that I can see.

I harsh sunlight blast does pick up and magnify all contacts..and frosting etc. It was in a bag that traveled around bumping along and dumped on a floor and sorted through to finally get to a cashiers till.. That's why so many bigger coins have those big bag marks..

It is beautiful when held in hand and ICCS's as a 63. way back when..
...and it does look a lot like the earlier first pics when in hand.

Nice to now know all of the specifics about that hoof and the 9/9/9 and 4/4 designation.. thanks to pginrh and 'the others' nice comments on it..
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