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How Do You Prevent / Insure Against Theft?

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 Posted 01/11/2016  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Heres how I am insured:

1. I hope I dont get robbed


Thats it. Oh and I also keep 80-90% of my collection in a fire safe hidden in my room. in an undisclosed location
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 Posted 01/11/2016  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add masterofsecrets to your friends list
Have your coins delivered to and from an address that is not your home. Ie: Post office box, UPS Store, etc.

The fewer people that know what you have, the fewer that will try to take it from you. Just like parking your car in a lot, hide anything valuable out of sight. If the cable guy, pizza delivery, or whatever can't see it, they'll move on to an easier target.


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 Posted 01/11/2016  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lilly Bird to your friends list
I live in a city apartment and I don't tell anyone in my building that I have coins. I have a double deadbolt on my door and am more concerned about building staff than my neighbors. My coins are not where I live. All my old numismatic info is either shredded or dropped at an anonymous recycle location with my address removed. If you came in my home you would have no idea that I collect coins because they are not here and all my coin books are put away.
Insurance is usually confusing and nothing will cover the love and care you put into your collection and often insurance companies have too many loopholes.So, I have no insurance. I find a safe to be a magnet for others to believe you have valuables so I don't use one.
I have thought about getting a locked metal cabinet just to keep things completely from prying eyes but I just haven't.
That's all I do.
I have a locked mail box to receive all my coin orders and no one knows what they are.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
childofthewheat, dont you mean......

Heres how I am insured:

1. I hope I dont get robbed


Thats it. Oh and I also keep 80-90% of my collection in a fire safe hidden in my room an undisclosed location.

Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Buy a small safe, and hide it.

I have found that insurance policies are a waste of money.
For those insurance companies I have been in contact with about coin insurance, they all want an annual valuation of every coin every year. They want a professionally recognised numistmatist to do this.
Very obviously, the cost of doing this is prohibitive.

Other companies just allow you to include your collection in the overall house contents policy. The snag with this is that generally, the maximum claim they will pay out for the loss of coins is a paltry $1,000.

If you live in the 'States, own a gun as well. Only problem with a gun, is that accidental death is always a possibility, unless you lock that in a safe as well. If legislation dictates that you need a gun safe, immediate use of the gun when you need it most, becomes impossible.

So,
buy a small safe, and hide it.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list

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Thats it. Oh and I also keep 80-90% of my collection in a fire safe hidden in my room an undisclosed location.

Crap!

Er, I mean, thats what I said in the first place
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 Posted 01/11/2016  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_kid to your friends list
A lot of quality safes would outprice my collection...
So....
Yeah...
BUT WAIT!
Plastic shelving units are much more inconspicuous.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
Mine's a good one, and it was only about $250.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_kid to your friends list
Yeah, but when your collection is only worth a little over a grand, it doesn't really work out.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
"Loose lips sink ships". The fewer people that know about your collection and where you keep it the better. Statistically speaking in a majority of cases the victim knows the culprit. It could be a relative who is hooked on drugs, a co-worker who overheard you bragging about your collection, or a friend of your children who hear that dad has a very valuable coin collection that he spends a lot of time and money on. I think the post that mentioned cleaning up any evidence of coin collecting before inviting people over, including housecleaner and repairmen is very good advice and that it would be helpful to have a PO Box if you are receiving coins or coin periodicals through the mail to your home. Do what you can to make your home a difficult target like having a alarm, security cameras, and no dense plantings around your home where a thief can hide. If your home isn't the easiest target, most times thieves will look elsewhere. Remember that thieves like to get in and get out fast so they may not find well concealed items. Clutter might be a good thing. In my opinion it is better to have a well concealed strongbox than a large gun safe in plain view. From what I've read thieves look in the master bedroom closet first when they suspect there is a safe.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hcmusicguy to your friends list
My collection is kept in my home with little precaution taken. We live in a good neighborhood and try to keep the doors locked. Most of my coins are common, 20th century pieces that are easily replaceable. I do not subscribe to any numismatic publications and rarely have coins mailed to me. When we come into some spare cash we may invest in a small safe, maybe one that bolts to the floor. But we're not there yet.

My actual silver stack, as well as a few special, irreplaceable heirloom coins, is locked up in the safe deposit box at the bank. My wife and I are the only ones who can access it; though in practice I'm the only one who ever does, since I work there.
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 Posted 01/14/2016  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
What collection?
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 Posted 01/14/2016  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list

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I live in a city apartment and I don't tell anyone in my building that I have coins.

Insurance is usually confusing and nothing will cover the love and care you put into your collection and often insurance companies have too many loopholes.So, I have no insurance.



Renters insurance is dirt cheap and I have never understood why anybody who rents wouldn't have it...

10 years ago when I was in an apartment my renters insurance only cost my like $16 and they just added it to my car insurance... I really recommend looking into it even if not for your coins but for least peace of mind that if you ever lose everything in a fire or other catastrophe, at least you will get money to replace you furniture...
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 Posted 01/14/2016  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ShinyCat to your friends list
I do not keep coins in the house that are worth more than the rather small amount my insurance will cover. I put a rider on my policy, and send in photos every year along with an inventory just to make loss claims easier, but anything of value or hard to replace lurks in a safety deposit box.
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 Posted 01/14/2016  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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There have been instances of theft in the area, but my house is at the bottom of a hill and out of sight of the road, which helps.


Actually no, it hurts. Criminals always prefer a target that's out of sight. They will sniff them out.
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