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You Vs. ICCS 1967 25 Cents

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 Posted 01/13/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
I can see a 65 with ICCS. Nice clean fields
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The Queen is sporting some very Jerry Remick-esque sideburns there...
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 Posted 01/13/2016  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list


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 Posted 01/13/2016  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Ahh, the old Bobcat quarter, I loved these when they first was issued..nice, MS-65
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 Posted 01/13/2016  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
I would think ms65, but I have a feeling it's an ms66, because of the great fields and ICCS loves those fields with halos.
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 Posted 01/13/2016  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
I think they graded it at ms 63. If I was the grader, I would grade it at 62, but I think they'd likely gave a 63. It has Mushy features aside from the 'die burn'. The ear area especially, also some contact on the neck. I'm not sure how much the lustrous appeal can out weigh the lack of appeal in the striking on the queen and bobcat.

If it's a 65 it's the ugliest 65 I've ever seen, please don't take offence. Lustrous yes, but there is contact marks in the field. Other than for wonder and curiosity, I don't know the point in having this graded. Just my opinion.

Will be interesting to find out what they gave this one.
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 Posted 01/13/2016  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
ms 66 all day..
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 Posted 01/13/2016  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
ICCS MS65
For the same reasons as Alan I would give it MS62
There's no shortage of well struck 65's around, buy the coin not the holder.
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 Posted 01/13/2016  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list
Noticed the rotated die, you are all very good at
grading, MS-65 it is, with die burn, side burn.
Good call Chequer. I did not pay the price noted.


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I like the rotation
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 Posted 01/13/2016  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
You people know your grading companies! Most of you nailed it!

Can I ask, if you were a grading company, what would you give this?
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I haven't seen one or tried to grade one like this before.
Very Interesting!
Obviously the coin has nice fields but how is it possible to grade it a MS65?
I don't believe that PCGS would grade the same.
Please explain...Thanks.
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 Posted 01/14/2016  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
it's a nice coin. The fields are also really clean, so ICCS MS65 is what I expected. But yes darryldarryl, I'm not too sure what PCGS would give it. I know they are harsher on the bust than the fields, and considering this coin (and what's happening on the queen), might be a 64? Maybe someone with more PCGS experience can give a clearer answer
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 Posted 01/14/2016  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
PCGS would grade this coin much lower.

Doesn't mean ICCS is wrong.

Just that they both have different grading standards and philosophies.

US coins have a much higher relief than our Canadian coins and for this reason, PCGS pays more attention to the high relief points and they don't weigh the fields as strongly as ICCS does.

For this reason, everyone is right in saying PCGS would grade this coin ms64 and possibly lower.
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