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 Posted 01/26/2016  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susuman to your friends list

One other thing that has not been mentioned. Do not try to clean or polish the coins at all. That is an almost guaranteed way to remove numismatic value of the coin. Unfortunately, the second photo above has a lot of faint lines that look like evidence of cleaning or wiping.

Nice coin though

Do you have pictures o the others?
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 Posted 01/26/2016  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list

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Unfortunately, the second photo above has a lot of faint lines that look like evidence of cleaning or wiping.


I'd chalk that up to the malleability of gold as a metal. Gold coins will develop fine abrasion lines from handling that would be much more difficult to produce on silver coins.

It would be nice to see the surfaces with a less washout on the light but coin photography is a difficult task at first.

You're best bet is just send them in for grading. There are way too many fakes out in the world for these issues you're presenting and it will take the handling of the coins by an expert to determine. Magnets and weight holds no bearing with the latest in modern day counterfeiting.

What's the goal? To sell them?
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 Posted 01/27/2016  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Do not clean coins. Handle collectibles with cotton gloves.

Hello. Your coins are interesting, if only they could talk.
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 Posted 01/29/2016  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madryz to your friends list
Hello everybody. After few days I finally have some time to make some pictures. This is the rest of my finding (two coins are missing - one I gave to expert for his opinion, and one I already posted some photos). First - this is how they looked like when I found them (this tube is very heavy, it weights around 10-12 kilos).




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And now the coins. I guess this pictures will be very bad for you, but I'm not photographer, I have just a camera in my smartphone and this is the best light I could get at the time. Sorry for that


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 Posted 01/29/2016  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but those gold coins look suspect in my opinion, likely counterfeits.
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 Posted 01/29/2016  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madryz to your friends list
PS. I have no idea why two images are reversed, they look normal on my PC, really no clue. Also - I messed up pictures of one coin but I did not have time to make another photos of it; I decided not to put it here, also its probably in the worst condition of all.
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 Posted 01/29/2016  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
The coins all look pretty good to me in terms of authenticity. If your scale is accurate the 33.4 grams on the 1904-S is right where the weight should be. Many double eagles found their way to Europe in the early 1900's so it's not completely unlikely someone put these away many years ago.

The coins are all in the AU to MS-60 range, with varying levels of abrasion, hairline scratches, and slight wear. All are common dates with no premium value except in high grade and I think none of these would qualify. So, value should be closely linked to the spot price of gold, plus a small numismatic premium. Bullion value for double eagles is currently around $1100 USD. My local coin shop would tack on an extra $200 or so and retail similar pieces for around $1300; I would think a reputable dealer would offer maybe $1200 each for yours if satisfied they were genuine.

If you really want confirm authenticity the best way is to send them to be graded. However, if you want to sell and are able to get offers in that range I see no reason to spend money on grading fees.

It's exciting that you found such a potentially valuable stash; congratulations! Please let us know what happens next with your treasures!
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 Posted 01/29/2016  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

And some fantastic finds.
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 Posted 01/29/2016  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Welcome! If you don't mind me asking where did you find these in the house? Incredible finds!!
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 Posted 01/30/2016  03:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madryz to your friends list
Hi ! I found them while removing old bathtub. It was hide underneath main outlet pipe, inside the wall in some kind of niche. At first I couldn't believe it, you can imagine my excitemenet ;)
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 Posted 01/30/2016  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Wow that's simply amazing! I don't own any gold coins so I can't say if yours are real or not but it looks promising. Hope they turn out to be legit. The bad news is now you may become addicted to collecting coins!
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 Posted 01/30/2016  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
That container looks amazing. I picture a piece of Kryptonite being stored in something like that.

The coins look real to me, but no expert here. Do all the the weighing, measuring, and magnet testing you can.



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 Posted 02/09/2016  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madryz to your friends list
Hello again everybody. I made the expertise and it states that all my coins are genuine. I decided to sell all except two of them, which I send for grading, one of them might be MS63-64. Thanks for feedback !
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 Posted 02/09/2016  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfusion to your friends list
and wow...such an incredible find! Congrats and so happy for you!
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 Posted 02/09/2016  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am glad they are all genuine. Thank you for the followup.
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