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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't see those marks keeping it from being a 64.
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Pillar of the Community
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594 Posts |
No way a 64 with those chin marks .... IMO
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I suppose a Morgan could earn a 64 even with those chin hits. However, it should have excellent luster and eye appeal to compensate. This piece has rather diffuse luster and I see evidence of friction on the cheek. Based on these images I'd call it an AU-58 slider.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It seems like they grade 21 Morgans differently than the rest of the series sometimes. Like they are graded on a curved scale because of the typical bagginess of the issue.
The op coin is still a 63 in my opinion. At this point the reverse could only lower the grade not raise it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That looks like a scan and I imagine the luster is much better than what we see.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36905 Posts |
I'd buy this one at MS-63 price.
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Pillar of the Community
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1316 Posts |
If it was my money being spend, I would agree that this might have seen a couple pockets and is an AU-58. Those shave cuts on her chin are unbecoming of MS64 money regardless.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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We can't call it AU-58 as we haven't seen the reverse yet. but for me I don't care what it grades because I would never be interested in a 21 Morgan with that chin.  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Right t-Bop. Drives me nuts when people think a bag mark(s) or toning, or a scratch or a rim ding reduces an uncirculated coin below MS-60. The reason it's a 60 is because it has mucho problems. The reason it's NOT AU-58, or ANY circulated grade is because it's still uncirculated regardless of those problems. You might think the coin is ugly, and most 60's (or even 61's) are ugly but that doesn't mean an uncirculated coin is going to drop below 60.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pending reverse pic, I think it deserves a 64.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6398 Posts |
I agree the chin marks have nothing to do with mint state status. The markers for a circulated coin are friction on the high points and loss of original luster in the open fields. The obverse appears to show a distinct area of gray discoloration from below the eye to the chin, with lesser "grayness" on the neck and in the obverse field below the chin. Absent an in-person examination of the coin those discolored areas say "friction" which in turn means the coin is not mint state. Only an opinion of course!
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Pillar of the Community
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thats why you stick to the general rule of buying the coin not the slab. The fields are clear but yes the shave cuts are distracting.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
At the TPG's a slight trace of wear does not immediately disqualify a coin from receiving a MS grade. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
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63, but I think the right field on the obverse caught the grader's attention, hence the reason why it graded a 64.
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Valued Member
United States
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I think the overall quality of the strike and the elvis lip got her to 64.
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