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1947 Silver Dollar, Pointed 7, Quad "Hp"

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 Posted 03/06/2016  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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Wildflower, it's a quadruple die... Take a look at that picture again... It's easiest to count it on the P


You're absolutely right! Four of them, all lined up in succession.



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 Posted 03/06/2016  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjweber to your friends list
Ray set up a great camera system for me... That little Nikon objective gets in there pretty dang close! Here is a picture of it...

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Nice set up! You certainly won't have to deal with reflections from your ceiling lights. LOL!
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 Posted 03/06/2016  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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Slightly off topic here but how did the HP get Doubled, than tripled, than Quaded... Was this in succession?


The " HP" is part of the obverse die, not hand-punched. There are other quadrupled HPs, presumably all the result of the exact same die. But I'd also like to understand how it came to be, for that particular die.

The era of King George VI is very interesting in terms of anomalies. Clearly the mint was not striving for perfection in circulated coinage but considering WW2 and other events occurring during that period of time, it's understandable.
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 Posted 03/06/2016  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Great close-up photo of the quad HP, thanks.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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so the story goes tht the mint was just coming out of WWII and Canada (GB) was having issues with India at the time... so for whatever reasons, they didn't produce the dies for the 1948 dollars and that is why they have the maple leaf varieties. now I imagine during this time, there may have been a lack of quality control in die productions... the two quads I have are almost identical and you can clearly see quadrupling throughout the rest of the letters on the reverse. I'll post both HP close ups so you can compare...
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 Posted 03/07/2016  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list
Awesome pictures of the Quad HP.

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Thanks Don! I'm learning a lot about Canadian Dollars and halves real quick! My local coin store guy does not deal in foreign coins and when these came in the other day he got them at a great deal. He wasn't trying to be dishonest but neither him or the seller knew what they were doing... Now he wants me to turn around and sell them off on ebay or wherever... But man did that cause a steep learning curve! And you Canadians don't make it too easy... But there is a really nice Whitman book out there that covers it all in pretty good detail and my microscope and camera setup really helps out a ton
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 Posted 03/07/2016  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I see 5 punches on the P.

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I saw it too... but in all honesty, I think it is just 4... if you try counting the cerifs on the bottom of the P or try counting the H's it really only comes out to four... you can see the quadrupling in the letters around the Reverse (head side) also but I only see four...
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 Posted 03/07/2016  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aswag to your friends list
I too saw 5.
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 Posted 03/07/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Just love those photos...so much exact detail...and such a great variety to have..

Thanks for presenting here..
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Well if you love those, I have a whole lot more to post by the end of the week... they ARE'T mine... but, I am being authorized to sell them soon... I am still researching them, and there are about a dozen we are planning on sending off to PCGS, but the boss man says he is willing to sell them at a good price prior to that... bottom line is, I have been learning a lot!! and getting some great practice with the camera!
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 Posted 03/17/2018  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinee72 to your friends list
Hello! Did anyone else notice the quadrupling of the letters "IMP", the dots, and the doubling of "IND"?

Is this just a case of a "quadrupled die" obverse...? If so, it's a pretty interesting pivot point. But on mine, you can clearly see quadrupling at the top of the letters "IMP", as well as the colons, and doubling on "IND."
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