Toned Coins For Long Term Investment

Yes! toned coins in holders are one thing,buying raw is a lot larger risk to me.

in my opinion a toned coin is like a car that needs painting or clothes with dirt stains. would you pay more for them ?
all are damaged, then look at a crisp clean silver dollar from the mint .
just my thoughts.
yes I have a few toned but I did not buy them that way.

okay, let us assume...

1. A toned coin is worth more than a white coin
2. A TPG holder will keep the toning as it is (excepting PCI holders)
3. Coin values will increase in the next 30 years like they did in the last thirty years

So we buy a hundred monster toned coins in PCGS holders put them in a safe or deposit box for 30 years. So here we are with more grey hair, bigger waists, less hair and teeth; we open the box and the angels sing as we see our 100 beautiful coins...

So what if....
1. There was a Big news story last year that PCGS was run by crooks or whatever and now are the equivilent to ACG, SEC, NNM, or Compu-grade?

2. Tastes have changed and toning is seen as damage and a very bad thing

So now we have all these 'investment grade' coins that no one will buy!

Invest in stocks, bonds, securities, or investment things. Buy coins because you love them. If your first thought is return on investment you have lost the hobby.

After watching the video on anodizing coins to tone them, I am mighty suspicious of anything from the last few decades.

This!

For me, coins are a hobby. They are best enjoyed this way.

I have problems with the term "natural" toning. My understanding is that the silver is tarnishing because it's reacting to the sulphur in the air. Well earth's atmosphere doesn't naturally contain any meaningful amounts of sulphur. The sulphur in the air is a byproduct of manmade industrial processes, i.e. pollution. So what's so "natural" about the toning?

Why some collectors prefer coins that have been more exposed to man made pollution than other coins rather puzzles me, especially since most collectors prefer uncirculated, i.e. mint, coins. Well silver coins come out of the Mint looking shiny white.

It's "natural" as opposed to "artificial" or "accelerated", ie toning deliberately placed on a coin to improve its appearance, rather than toning that happened simply with the passage of time.

Silver is very good at sucking sulfur out of the atmosphere. Well, it's as good as any other metal (apart from gold) in that aspect, what makes silver unique is that it reacts readily with sulfur but not with oxygen. So while copper toning is a mixture of sulfides, oxides, carbonates etc, on silver it's pure silver sulfide.

Yes, there is (or was; it's getting better) more sulfur in the air in recent centuries due to man-made activities, particularly burning certain high-sulfur fossil fuels (oil and coal). But there would still be more than enough "natural" sulfur in the air to cause silver to tarnish, eventually. Volcanoes emit sulfurous gases, and certain foodstuffs (notably eggs and garlic) are high in volatile sulfur compounds. If everybody still lived in the Stone Age, your silver coins would still tone, just maybe 3 or 4 times slower than they do now.