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1875-S Twenty Cent Grading

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 Posted 04/29/2016  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Very well struck with only slight weakness on the shield and elbow. The hairlines in the field to Miss Liberty's right (viewer left) and to the left of the date concern me based on the photos. I would say wear grade is around XF40 based on robe detail, shield, and hair. I think 25-30 is entirely too low for the wear grade regardless of the surface.
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 Posted 04/29/2016  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Detail looks XF but I am concerned about the surfaces. Are there hairlines present?
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 Posted 04/29/2016  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list
I'm holding it in my hand again now and I am baffled. To the naked eye the fields look like those of other (PCGS/NGC certified) silver coins of similar grades that I have: just many random small wear marks in all directions...but I guess the camera doesn't lie?

If I tilt it just right under magnification, I sometimes get a fleeting glimpse of hairlines but nothing like the photos. Maybe it was wiped really lightly at some point, maybe not even in an attempt to clean it?

Any thoughts on the reverse? It still has a hint of cartwheel luster.

I agree with the XF40 assessment, there is enough detail to put it solidly in that category.

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 Posted 04/29/2016  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
I cannot tell if it has been cleaned, but I would think EF-40.
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 Posted 04/29/2016  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
By the way, there are a lot of people who call them "double dimes" :)

If the hairlines are invisible in hand, it would probably hit a problem free XF40 holder just fine.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
If there are no cleaning hairlines, it easily makes EF-40, even commercial EF-45. If the hairlines are fairly obvious, the net grade would be VF-30
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
I looked at this last night however I didn't chime in then. My initial thought was this coin is in the XF range. As Paralyse has pointed out there is detail in the devices.

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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list
XF, not sure if its cleaned.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list
Thanks for all of the input. Now I need to decide whether to have it graded or get rid of it!
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 Posted 04/30/2016  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
At least EF-40 - look at that hairline, and LIBERTY shows minimal wear. I would agree that it has been lightened at some point.


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 Posted 04/30/2016  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
VF35 old cleaning
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 Posted 04/30/2016  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
EF details. Cleaned.

Old cleaning might be market acceptable, but I would not buy it as problem-free.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
XF Details Cleaned
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 Posted 05/01/2016  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
NGC might call it XF-45 details, recovering from an old cleaning. But they might net grade it XF-40 and give it a clean title. It really doesn't matter and the difference in value in those grades is small. I grade it $180.
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 Posted 05/01/2016  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
XF details
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