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What Was NGC Thinking When They Graded This?

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 Posted 05/19/2016  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
It's that dark spot just to the right of LIBERTY. It's tough to see the depth in this screenshot but in NGC's verification pic it certainly looks like a gouge.
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 Posted 05/19/2016  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
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Looks like a toning spot to me.
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 Posted 05/19/2016  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Looks like a carbon spot to me
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 Posted 05/19/2016  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
So you don't think it goes beneath the coin's surface?
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 Posted 05/20/2016  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
im not seeing an issue?
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 Posted 05/20/2016  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Looks to me like it meets the technical grade. It just does not have the eye appeal, though.
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 Posted 05/20/2016  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list
with westernsky. As he mentioned, the coin has everything you could possibly want for the grade of AU 55, EXCEPT very little eye appeal . Also, I'll go with paralyse that it's a carbon spot. Jack
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 Posted 05/20/2016  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list
Agreed either a carbon spot or a fading late die state. I see nothing wrong with the coin but it does lack eye appeal
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 Posted 05/20/2016  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
And I believe the scratches around the perimeter are due to metal flow.
I think it's a late die state.
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 Posted 05/20/2016  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
Perhaps his "Grand Canyon" is the scratch behind Ms. Liberty's eye. It does not look that bad in the photo, but maybe it looks deeper in person.

At any rate the coin has been dipped, and it was made from a well worn set of dies which makes the edges look stretched and odd. It might be over graded by 5 points. I would never call it "choice," but it's not terrible.
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 Posted 05/20/2016  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
My "Grand Canyon" is that spot to the right of Liberty. Looking at the best pics I can see (from the seller and on NGC) I still cannot tell for certain whether it affects the surface only or if it is below. In the better pics there is some shadowing that makes it seem like it is actually a gouge. So maybe not the Grand Canyon at least a small valley.
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 Posted 05/20/2016  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree that it seems to lack "zip" in this photo and that it appears possibly dipped.
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 Posted 05/20/2016  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Looks like a normal AU-55 to me. What were you expecting, an MS-67?
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 Posted 05/20/2016  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
Fenton, actually I was just questioning what may or may not be significant damage. The grade is fine but if that mark is a deep gouge it should have been details graded with an Obv damage notation.
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