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Fake Gold Maple In NGC Holder On Ebay

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 Posted 07/26/2016  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Same seller - hollyexchange2015

Too late for this US $20 gold coin that did sell, as the buyer has already left feedback. I notice the barcode of the ebay sale does not match that of the NGC photo, aside from the flat, washed out appearance. It would be real good if the buyer might notice he or she got scammed and file a police report on the seller.
ebay:
142058518197

NGC
https://www.NGCcoin.com/certlookup/3378104-010/
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 Posted 07/28/2016  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list
... And our dishonest little friend is back at it again. ebay item # 282116288095
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 Posted 07/28/2016  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Reported.
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 Posted 07/28/2016  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Different holder this time but same counterfeit coin.
Seller was nice enough to supply photo of legit coin to compare with.
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 Posted 07/28/2016  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Gone.
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 Posted 07/28/2016  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list
I started this tread a while back this is only the tip of the ice berg on fake slab coins. https://goccf.com/t/171038&whichpage
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 Posted 11/05/2016  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list
Yet another fake gold maple on ebay. Someone must be making or importing these from Florida because they keep showing up there. ebay item: 262704078175

First picture is the real coin from the NGC website. The second coin is the ebay fake. Just compare where the bar codes line up to the certification numbers on each coin. Someone needs to help me here and report this to the RCM, because I have seen about a dozen of these fakes for sale on ebay over the past year.


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 Posted 11/05/2016  09:52 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
Just some differences quickly noted.

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 Posted 11/05/2016  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list

Quote:
Someone needs to help me here and report this to the RCM,

The RCM is well aware of these fakes,their bottom line isn't affected,they don't care what happens in the secondary market.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 11/05/2016  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
All it takes is one nasty letter from the RCM's crack legal team to ebay and most of these fakes will lose the largest marketplace, yet they don't seem to care.
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 Posted 11/05/2016  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list
I contacted ebay, but I don't have Bobby's powers. Looks like someone is going to get suckered out of 1300,00$ USD
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 Posted 11/06/2016  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
Can you imagine, if you wanted to go back and collect ANY bullion coin, and start from beginning of when it was issued, the amount of frauds out there, how hard it has to be.

OF course, with education and a good eye and help from fellow collectors on here, it can be done but dang, what a minefield you step into.

I mean this is crazy tho, its not enough that Pandas are faked. Even Maple Leafs... really?

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 Posted 11/07/2016  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list
Nice work guys on 2009 NGC Graded Canada 1 oz Gold Maple Leaf MS-69
Seller sticks-and-stones-2014 item 262704078175
http://www.ebay.com/sch/sticks-and-...-2014/m.html

I called this out on 11/06 not knowing CCF members JGG and nss-52 did the same on 11/05
nss-52 photos are much more detailed and focused than mine.
So, with His permission, I'm adding nss-52 photos to my topic.

Sold for $1,350, hope buyer gets recourse.

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 Posted 11/07/2016  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Adds weight to the old saying "if it seems to good to be true...."

If anyone's not aware, something to file for the future, CCF has a separate Canadian fake reporting section. Bobby monitors it and is extremely prompt and thorough at removal through ebay.

http://goccf.com/f/161
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 Posted 11/07/2016  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
https://online-barcode-reader.inliteresearch.com/
BTW useful tool if you are ever unsure of a slab, you can check the bar code.
In this instance you will clearly see that one of the bar codes does not equal the number on the slab. May be obvious to you, but I was happy to find this.
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