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An 1877 Indian Cent For Your Grading Estimates

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 Posted 08/08/2016  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
AU-53.
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 Posted 08/08/2016  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
Wow, we are all over the place with this one...

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 Posted 08/08/2016  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
14 yrs ago AU50; NGC today AU58.
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 Posted 08/08/2016  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I think NGC graded it AU-58.
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 Posted 08/09/2016  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
AU-55 (Today)

XF-45 (14 years ago)

Probably underestimating grade-inflation though. I was still collecting junk as a teenager in 2002 and didn't even know that grading companies existed since my LCS sold everything raw (probably greatly to their financial advantage).
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 Posted 08/09/2016  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Low AU
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I will say AU55 now and XF 45 14 years ago as well.
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 Posted 08/09/2016  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
So what did NGC grade this coin at ?
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 Posted 08/09/2016  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
EF? This is clearly better than that. AU-55, My grade. AU-50, Bill's grade. AU-58, NGC's grade.
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 Posted 08/09/2016  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
The suspense is killing me......
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 Posted 08/09/2016  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That coin would kill you if you paid AU money for it!
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 Posted 08/09/2016  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
Okay. I bought the coin raw from a collector. We both agreed that it was an EF-45. For those who think that you would have bought this coin with this much meat on it as an EF-40 or "details grade for cleaning" you can dream on. Dealers have been overgraded these coins for years, since I was a teenager in the 1960s. For an EF-45, this is as good as it gets.

OR you can play the dealer game when you under grade and over price. I've known a few dealers who have done that over years. You grade it EF-40 and charge full retail + 20 or 30 percent.

I sent this coin to NGC. They agraded it AU-58. I sold it to a want list customer for retail EF-AU money.

If you want a full "LIBERTY" on a certified 1877 cent, be prepared to buy one in at least VF-30 or better. Very rarely have I seen examples of this date with a full "LIBERTY" in Fine-12 to VF-20 or 25 holders. I've seen it, but it's unusual. The old time Fine-12 or 15 is now the modern VF-30.

Finally for a lot of collectors these days, "some crud is good." This coin probably has not sat in a coin collection for a lot of its life. It may have been in a family hoard. It just so happens that it was stored in such a way that it did not pick up any corrodion.
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I am staggered. No luster, 2 diamonds, evident obverse wear - not a single marker for AU.

I know this date often gets preferential treatment at NGC (I have benefitted myself on a 35 that deserved a 20 at best), but this is a new low (or should I say high).

Thanks for your insights as always.
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I am staggered. No luster, 2 diamonds, evident obverse wear - not a single marker for AU.


I see plenty of luster, especially on the reverse.
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 Posted 08/09/2016  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
This date gets preferential treatment from PCGS too, just not as much.
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