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1895 IHC (Possible Proof) W/ Strong Obverse Clash As Well As Reverse Clash

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 Posted 10/01/2016  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Thanks all, I was on the fence about the proof, and I after the feedback, I think the coin is just very well struck.
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 Posted 10/01/2016  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
WOW! Just....WOW!

Great coin. Definitely a keeper.

May struck with a prepared for proof planchet?
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 Posted 10/01/2016  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
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 Posted 10/02/2016  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Thanks Coop! That overlay is awesome!
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 Posted 10/02/2016  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I also don't think it's a proof. It is a strong strike.
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 Posted 10/02/2016  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I agree. The proof cents seem to tone more:
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm....aspx?s=2372
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm....aspx?s=2373
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm...aspx?s=82374
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm....aspx?s=2374

You have a great die clash example, it is just not a proof coin. IMOHO
Here is a side by side of the clash areas with arrows. That is even a better comparison:
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 Posted 10/02/2016  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Thanks Coop! I learn so much from your knowledge and illustrations. You go the extra mile to educate your fellow forum members, it's really appreciated!
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 Posted 10/02/2016  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coloradobryan to your friends list
Does someone have the Snow book? You would think this clash would be listed.
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 Posted 10/02/2016  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Definitely not a proof and I suspect a Bay Area EDM counterfeit.
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 Posted 10/02/2016  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Conder is on to something. This thread caught my eye as two-sided clashed dies on IHC are almost unheard of except when caused by MAD or OCC. I have doubts about the authenticity of the coin. I would recommend professional evaluation and certification; Rick Snow would be my first "go-to" point of contact.
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 Posted 10/02/2016  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Hey all, I am out on a date right now. I am headed home. I have a scale and another 95 I can take a side by side shot of. I pickes the coin up from a local Indianapolis coin shop with a strong reputation. Anyway, if anyone has a way to tell if it is a counterfeit please let me know. Yhanks for the help.
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 Posted 10/03/2016  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Hey all, I have taken some pics of the cent in question on a scale, along with another 95 on a scale. The ccent in question was bouncing back and forth between 3.2 and 3.3 grams. I also took side by side picks with my other 95. Unfortunately my other 95 is not in great shape so the comparison is not apples to apples. I do have a 97 that has nice AU details so I took side by side pics with thw 97 as well. Let me know your thoughts. Definitely an interesting cent. Thanks for all the help!

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 Posted 10/03/2016  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I would recommend that you work out a deal with the LCS: if the coin does not authenticate as genuine by a major TPG, you will be issued a refund in full.
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 Posted 10/03/2016  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hoppyg to your friends list
Paralyse, thanks for the great insight. Really interesting, and it helps me learn more about the hobby. I did look on Mr. Snow's website and I saw another 95 that has a mild clash above liberty's eye, similar but not as strong as what is present on this cent. I will attach the pic from Mr. Snow's site. If I was to get the coin authenticated, which TPG would you suggest? Thanks again for the help!

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 Posted 10/03/2016  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Good research :) PCGS and NGC are the "big two" but ANACS and ICG are less-expensive alternatives. It's just a little extra "peace of mind."
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